397. Self-Awareness Is Important in Figuring Out Your True Desires

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Kareen Walsh and Lesley Logan explore the journey of manifesting dreams through integrity, action, and self-awareness, sharing their experiences in launching successful businesses and navigating entrepreneurial challenges. They discuss the importance of validating new ideas through feedback and highlight the ongoing pursuit of authentic success. With insights on overcoming fears, aligning goals, and most importantly, taking action, this episode offers valuable lessons and inspiration to fuel your own dreams.

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In this episode you will learn about:

The importance of having clear goals and visions.
How fear of failure or feedback from others can hold you back.
Why inner work is crucial for aligning with your true desires.
How leveraging technology can help in creating a legacy.
The significance of focusing on feedback from relevant sources.
The necessity of taking action to turn visualization into reality.
How to step into integrity to become who you’re meant to be.

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Guest Bio:

Kareen Zahr Walsh is a visionary business and people strategist, author, podcaster , investor, and a 7-figure business building entrepreneur making her the ultimate Business Healer. With nearly 2 decades of experience optimizing performance in the health & wellness, eCommerce, technology, and finance industries, running top performing teams in complex environments, Kareen has a proven track record of helping C-Suite executives turn their vision of impact into action often resulting in 10Xing their investment. Kareen is on a mission to help you integrate your inner business with your vision for external impact so you can get out of your own way and stand in alignment.

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Kareen Walsh 0:00

It was a very transformative few years because I refused to deny myself the truth of what was really going on with me and what I really wanted. And so once I stood in my truth and I was like, Okay, this is what I want then I had to stand in integrity in my action. So the be it till you see it energy is how you act in it until it actually happens.

Lesley Logan 0:28

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:10

All right, Be It babe. So here's the deal. I got my besties back on the pod this woman is Kareen Walsh. You maybe remember her from the first year we had the podcast. She has the best quote of your hustles should never become a hassle. And if your hustle is become a hassle, then you should probably call Kareen. But she and I talked a little bit about manifestation. We talked about procrastination. I love that we got to talk about how her life has evolved since the last time she was on. And I think it's so, so, so important. I like to have some of our guests come back again because their life has changed and they have shifted and it's important for you to know that in the Be It Till You See It process, it is not like you ever make it, you know, like, "Nailed it." It's always evolving. We're always evolving. And so Kareen and her life and what she shares with you in today's episode is a really great example of that. So I'm so, so excited for you to hear that in today's episode. Here's Kareen.

Lesley Logan 2:05

All right, Be It babe. I'm so excited. We have a special interview for you. Clearly, you can see we're in a special, special place. But we have Kareen Walsh here. You've been on the pod before, but just in case anyone hasn't listened to the episode yet, or doesn't know you, somehow, can you tell them who you are and what you rock at?

Kareen Walsh 2:21

Sure. And first before we even jump into that, your community is amazing. Like, literally, your listeners, every time, even when I did that initial episode, I mean the amount of people that just reached out and like want to learn more. So thank you for having me on again. I love our conversations.

Lesley Logan 2:37

Oh my god. So here we go on it (inaudible). Everyone quotes my hustle's become a hassle. But like, 'cause you said, go listen to that first episode guys because she says it's okay to have a hustle just can't become a hassle, I was like, it's no longer for you. So anyways, okay (inaudible).

Kareen Walsh 2:57

Basically, my purpose is, I believe, is to be a conduit to help others manifest and materialize their dreams, whether it's in life or business. I happen to be a top business strategist, coach, investor, I have my own seven-figure business I've been running for over 10 years. And I just want people to accelerate their growth by leveraging my lessons learned. And so with that, I run my consulting company called revampologist, I have my coaching practice under my name. And then now I'm about to launch a whole new platform on-demand coaching called Hey, Kareen, which I'm super excited about.

Lesley Logan 3:34

I know because also I remember it was not this January, but the last January, we were doing our first annual tradition of hanging out and you're like, hey, I'm doing this thing I'm gonna call it Hey, Kareen. I was like, so, and now here we are and Hey, Kareen is like, is a thing. So first of all, I just want to if we can, we go, we go forward to go backwards. A lot of people have ideas, and then it can take some time. And so sometimes they go, maybe it's not supposed to happen, or, you know, now looking back, this is almost two years in the making of just this one thing. How, how did you like navigate a two-year long-ish journey and did that feel longer than you wanted? How did you kind of figure that out? Because I do think so many people go, I have this idea. And then it's not happened. So I should be further along by now.

Kareen Walsh 4:22

Yeah. So many things in that question. You know, whenever we have these big visions, right, these big goals or this aspiration, right, it's always this idea that comes to us. And then we're like, well, how do we, how do we manifest it? How do we make it happen? How does it come to life, right, and there's so many different tracks you can take. But if you're not clear on the destination, then it's really hard to carve out a plan. And what I realized for me, so I've had several different businesses over the years. Some have failed, some have been successful, like I am a idea machine. And then when I have an idea, I want to figure it out like I am just very solution-oriented and, and also very strategic. But I realized that my pattern for achievement, and making sure that actually comes to fruition was that I had to be clear on a part of it, not all of it, but I was like, well, let me go try this first. And then I would jump into action. And I think a lot of people get stuck in the fear of what if I fail, or what if it doesn't come into what it should be, or they sit in the feedback of others who have never done it before, and then they're convincing themselves of something that isn't true to their journey. So the differentiator with me is that just by taking that first step towards it, you know a little bit more about what's possible. And it doesn't have to be all the things, I also give myself permission to change my mind. So you just mentioned that this is a, this has been like a two-year concept, right? I didn't take action until this year, because I allowed myself to fully bake the idea and really sit with it. Because in the past, Lesley, I was, I had a lot of half-baked ideas out there. People literally would be like, oh, this is really cool. Let me go build this program. And I would build the program, never market it. Because I like the building part. But I didn't care about the selling part, right? Like I (inaudible) or I would be like, oh, you know, I want to go write this book. And I finished my first book in 2017. I was like, done with the journey and then the actual putting it out into the world. I was like, meh, so there's been very different learning curves for me on the full picture that I had to realize I had to visualize the full picture. I had to, I had to start to think about, okay, if I do this thing and then I, how am I putting it out into the world? And like, what's the purpose of putting it out into the world? And what's the attention I want from it and to follow through completely on the vision? You know what I mean?

Lesley Logan 6:58

I do know what you mean. I do think I have some several half-baked ideas out there.

Kareen Walsh 7:02

Right? So many because we're an idea machine.

Lesley Logan 7:04

Right. And we and we do take action. Yeah. Now I want to ask you, from what you just said is how do we know that we're baking an idea versus like, procrastinating tweaking? Like, I'm gonna tweak a little bit more. I'm just like, I'm still noodling. How do we know we're like, it's still that the baking is the action of that idea versus a procrastination?

Kareen Walsh 7:26

Yeah, sure. So procrastination, I believe, shows up in something you don't really want. If you really want it, you will take action towards it. In my opinion, right? Like, if you are someone who really wants to bring this thing into your life, you will sit in procrastination for a period of time sometimes just to test yourself, do I really want it? But most of the time, if you don't. And then it's like, o h, it didn't happen. I keep procrastinating. If you even call yourself a procrastinator. There are people who have to have pressure to act like they need a deadline. They need to know someone's waiting for it. They need to feel like that, like, something's gonna be lost if they don't do it. Like there's a, there's a true procrastinator energy like that that exists, which is really about I need tension to show up. And generally that tension is coming from someone else.

Lesley Logan 8:22

Yeah, they're creating stress to (inaudible).

Kareen Walsh 8:24

To follow through. But generally, it's because they don't really want to do that thing. When you are coming from an innate place of like, I want this thing to come out into the world, you will literally do anything possible to at least try. Like, you really will, if you're, if you're truly aligned in that way. It's hard to get to that point I think if you don't do that inner work that we talk about all the time, where it's like, I'm just being true to myself, like that's a great idea. But do I really want to?

Lesley Logan 8:52

I think you're right, sort of the people in my group, I did a whole webinar on procrastination, so I had to do some research like okay, well, what is procrastination?

Kareen Walsh 8:58

Yeah, what did you find out?

Lesley Logan 8:59

So one of the things I found out is like, if you are a procrastinator, it also could be that you haven't figured out what you are procrastinating on is aligned with the goal that you have. So you haven't really attached your why to it and if you, so that makes sense what (inaudible) of course you don't want to do something that's not part of the thing that you're doing. And so truly baking an idea is actually like going through like what do I want from this, why am I doing this, how does it align with all these other things and I think there's a difference between putting it on the ideas board and never and just going I'm gonna do that someday, I'm gonna do that someday, versus

Kareen Walsh 9:32

Act on it.

Lesley Logan 9:32

Putting in time each week or even more each morning like really thinking about what this idea is and who it's for. And I think even thinking or meditating or journaling it can be action.

Kareen Walsh 9:43

Connecting to it though, right? So the reason everything that I have learned from in the doing that I realized I wanted to take more time to bake my vision now is that I no longer have the time to waste. And, and I really wanted to make sure that when I do put effort when I do put investment when I, when I actually bring people together for it when I, you know, like the whole effort behind it, time is of such value to me right now, because there's so much that I'm doing but I wanted to make sure that when I launched this, I had the right strategy, it sat well within me like I felt connected with it to follow through. And now it is crazy to actually receive the test version of this platform and be like, hh my god, it's even more than I dreamt of because.

Lesley Logan 10:34

I didn't see it yet.

Kareen Walsh 10:35

So it's even more, it's even more and I'm super excited.

Lesley Logan 10:38

So, um, is it okay we let the cat out of the bag?

Kareen Walsh 10:41

Yeah, let the people know.

Lesley Logan 10:42

So Kareen has created an app and it's called Hey, Kareen.

Kareen Walsh 10:46

It's like the AI, it's called Hey, Kareen because, you know how it goes, Hey, Siri, or Hey, Alexa and you start making commands. This is your on-demand business coaching platform.

Lesley Logan 10:55

With your amazing advice.

Kareen Walsh 10:56

With my strategies, methodologies, everything in the bag.

Lesley Logan 10:59

And I actually haven't seen it because even though we use the same app developer, I was, and I was at his his house he's like, do you want to see it? I'm like, of course, I wan to see, and even though I introduced you to him, he's like, oh, wait a minute, we have a rule. (Inaudible)

Kareen Walsh 11:10

I'm gonna show it to you, guys. I'm gonna show it to you, guys.

Lesley Logan 11:16

(Inaudible) And I think it's also the, to go back to your ideas, I actually think our ideas, once they are in reality are always bigger and better than what we could have ever dreamed of because you can only kind of put together what you've seen or what has existed, it's really hard, you know, had a coach say he's like, unique ideas are amazing. But if you can't tell someone you want to invest in it, or somebody who want to buy it, that it's like this and this together people can't conceptualize it either. And they're not gonna help you. So like, when I talk about going on tour, they're like, go on tour, I'm like, yes, it's like how a band goes on tour but I just teach classes like, you have to like, because that helps people

Kareen Walsh 11:55

Conceptualize what you're doing.

Lesley Logan 11:57

But then, in reality, everything ends up being a little bit better. And I think that the perfectionist slash procrastinators out there who are just noodling around, one of the things I feel like they're holding themselves back from is their experience of something being bigger than they could even imagine, you know?

Kareen Walsh 12:14

Yeah, and one, I think you, because you used two different types of people in that statement, the perfectionist, has hesitation on putting anything out there until it feels absolute. An absolute is really hard in the human world. That's really hard. I, you know what I mean, like we are meant to be a little messy. And that's what other messy people will be attracted to. It's not about perfection, and that creates its own stress and strain that causes hesitation to put your real self out into the world. So I always say do it messy because it just gets you started. And then this journey even to get this concept together. Last year, what I did launch that didn't go anywhere, which was a learning curve, you know, like a lesson learned was originally when I launched Hey, Kareen, it was meant to be a group coaching program where people would have access to me to just ask questions on the fly, as they were in their business, right. So it was a much higher price point. And the accessibility was there. But the desire to utilize that wasn't as high as I thought it might be. Right? And then I tested it out with a group. And it was it went well in the sense of the support they got, but the consistency wasn't there. Plus, it was burning me out. Because imagine just getting nonstop questions from entrepreneurs, because everyone's going through and then you're just repeating yourself a lot of the times, even though I was repeating it in a recorded message to the group that they can all listen to, it still was not being captured the right way. So it had to wait until now when the technology available to us is just phenomenal that I can actually leverage everything and have the system do it for me, where it just, it's just so freeing. Like I feel like oh my gosh, it actually is creating legacy for me and then it's also creating accessibility without me wasting away trying to make it happen. I'm letting the engine to do its thing. So it's, like you said, like, I never had that picture when I first thought about the vision because I didn't know about the tech and then finding out like this is my vision I ideally would like this kind of impact leveraging technology to do it even better and faste? Oh.

Lesley Logan 14:26

Well, I think that's why like, a lot of people don't want to share their ideas with people. One, there's a fear like someone's gonna take it or there's a fear that it like maybe it's not gonna be good enough or it's not ready yet and I'll share it but I have found and maybe you can attest to this and or not, but like when I share an idea with someone, they actually opened my eyes to all these possibilities that I didn't know about, for you, the tech, kind of somewhere in the last year like blew up (inaudible) accessible thing but like, to your point you said you didn't know it was, the tech was there, like

Kareen Walsh 14:59

Didn't know how to do this.

Lesley Logan 15:00

Yeah, if you don't share your ideas, you, your, your ideas can only go as far as you know.

Kareen Walsh 15:05

Exactly. It is, it's in the limitations of what you have. Right. So you, that's the box, but then like, open the doors to other people and now you have the world to access like it's just, and the expertise of others, you always need to bring in and kind of bounce the ideas off of and say, hey, this is what I'm thinking, what do you think? What, would you use it? Is there, do you find it valuable? Like I'm constantly validating any new offer, even, even any of your listeners who are putting together like, some new offer or a new class or a different platform, etc. Always test it out first on a group, get that feedback, make it better. And then again, and again and again, it's called continuous development. That's what in tech happens. It's also what we do personally, you know, it's how we evolve. It's like, constantly trying to get the feedback, move on.

Lesley Logan 15:56

Brad knows about something. And I didn't mean to burst his bubble, but he's like, I want to do this thing. And I'm like, I don't think we should do it right now. And he was, I definitely saw it, like, I hit a bubble. And I was like, well, personally, what we haven't done well, is we haven't done some of these feedback things that we could do from specific groups of people to really understand why they're using what they're using of ours. We do a great job. Like we've had amazing success. I want to go to another level. And another level isn't always inventing another idea. It's actually understanding why people like the current idea, in their own words. And it's, but that requires like, asking people. And we don't always want to ask because I don't know, maybe we're afraid what people are gonna say (inaudible) bothering people.

Kareen Walsh 16:39

Or it shuts down your vision. It's so precious, your vision of what you want, like, it's just such a precious, beautiful thing, because it's all yours. And then as soon as you're like, hey, come look at my baby. And is my baby ugly? You don't want to believe that. You're kind of like, ah, okay, so you have to have a little bit of detachment, once you, once you are gonna welcome other people in and you also have to have the lens of, I hear your input, but you're actually not my target market, or you're not the people I need that from. So thank you for that. But I'm just gonna go over here, you know, so knowing who you're doing it for, is who you need to go ask for feedback from, but that's so beautiful that you're like, we just don't have enough data. So you weren't really saying no, you're just saying not right now until these things happen.

Lesley Logan 17:26

Yeah, well, because it's, I think, like, having the data from the actual people and you hit the nail on the head, like, we often ask family members, what do they think? And they're like, not your target market half the time and family like

Kareen Walsh 17:41

No, no, no. No, sorry. My family has no clue what I actually do like, even to this day, I think my mom thinks I'm an HR because I got a degree back in the day on that, like, yes, only get the feedback from your target market, because the family comes with so much baggage, too, the way they say it, how they say it, who said it (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 18:06

My mother-in-law gave me like three ideas on the phone the other day, and it was like, you know, and you're just like, and I, like, I have enough ideas, first of all. And also these ideas. I don't know (inaudible). And I was like, how do I say it?

Kareen Walsh 18:21

Those are great ideas. Not for me.

Lesley Logan 18:24

Thank you. Thanks, you know, I think your daughter will kill me if I'm late on projects (inaudible) you have to know who to ask and that no, I thinks, sometimes, and oftentimes, like, I hire people to be the people to ask the questions to like, that's why people hire you. It's like, it's like you're curating the right people to ask advice from and then you're also having to be very particular who you ask information from on your beautiful baby. Okay. I want to go back a little bit though. Because since so, we had you on several years back, you're back now a lot has changed and you're one of the guests who I know understands what be it till you see it means even before this podcast even existeds. You do it all the time. So how have you been beeing it till you see it these last couple of years with this evolution?

Kareen Walsh 19:16

Yeah, yeah. No. So it's been interesting. The the self journey is all about being true, like so I think since we last did the, our recording. It was I was definitely very driven in serving—serving my clients, serving others, serving, you know, people in my life. It was all this outbound side. And about two and a half years ago, I was like, I'm depleted, like getting through the pandemic. So my business skyrocketed during the pandemic because one of my consulting companies, basically was, like grew doubled in what it was because my services were in high demand during the time where people couldn't hire full time, and so they needed experts that I have in my business to come in and do that. So I not only was like extremely busy, so the money was in the bank, and I had the vision for that. And I stepped into my entrepreneurial side for it. But I neglected who I had to become to actually stand in it in a healthy way. So when I think about the be it until you see it, I had to shift my lens to make sure that I'm a multifaceted person. So I need a dynamic way of caring for myself, in order to then stand in all these things that I choose to manage. And in that two-and-a-half-year mark, I realized that I was really in this point of convincing myself, I call it a form of self-manipulation when you're sitting in convincing energy that I was okay, when I wasn't. So I had to shift my perspective completely to be like, Kareen, what is a healthy, aligned, entrepreneurial life that you want to lead? And I started to design that for myself and had to remove all the layers of the way I was showing up in life to cast a healthier vision for my businesses, for myself, personally, who I was surrounding myself with, who I was in relationship with, how I was attracting clients and I had to clean house. And it was a very transformative few years because I refuse to deny myself the truth of what was really going on with me, and what I really wanted. And so once I stood in my truth, and I was like, okay, this is what I want, then I had to stand in integrity in my action. So the be it till you see it energy is how you act in it until it actually happens. Right? So you have the belief. Sure. You have the vision. Sure. But none of it can be manifested without action. And so for me, I've always been action-oriented, but not with the aligned stance of me first, it was always for everyone else.And then it was like, Okay, if I took care of me first, I can even do so much more for everyone else. So now what that then allowed me to do in that perspective, so first, you have to kind of get clear on your perspective and how you treat yourself in the process to then cast these visions of like, okay, if I want to, you know, build my mastermind and I want to I have this now two-day immersive I do with my clients that I freakin love like to go for two days from end to end through my evolve methodology with a founder, like that vision that I had for it. And I think I designed it last June. And by December, I had gone through five different entrepreneurial businesses and done these two-day immerses and where their businesses are today, like, those opportunities would not have been there because I wasn't clear on the stance that I wanted prior. Prior, it was all these like short-term stent things. And now it's like, no, I want longevity. I want to walk alongside my clients always. I want to feel that they see me evolving, while I'm helping them evolve. Like, I want to make sure there's this continuous growth, you know, energy in everything I do. And sometimes that's hard to fully visualize, but you can determine the stance you want in it. And just as simple as showing up in that stance, then the right things start to attract in and are reflective in the interactions you have.

Lesley Logan 23:36

Yeah, I think like it's been fun because I get to watch on the outside, too, and I get to be on the inside too (inaudible) I got to see like, and not just because the world had opened up last year, it (inaudible) for several years. But like to watch you go okay, the person, the way I want this (inaudible) to people I want to help, they're in this room, I'm gonna go in that room. They're in this room, I'm gonna go in that room. And that is being it till you see it. It's not waiting for them to find you.

Kareen Walsh 24:03

Oh, no, no, no.

Lesley Logan 24:04

Or until you are ready.

Kareen Walsh 24:06

Yeah. No, it's always an action or pick up the phone, I would pick up the phone to or email someone say, hey, I'm really trying to attract these type of people and who do you know, like, we don't do that enough even with our own network of who we know already. Social media has been very interesting. And the, I treat it as like, here's the behind the scenes of my life how I'm doing things and I'm on Instagram, most of it that's a, you know, you see that all the time, right? But I'm more sharing my journey than I and then there's some coaching moments in there. But truly my network, it's my relationships that actually have built what I have. Because it's who knows me that trust me to then recommend me. So getting into those rooms like you said, like, the first time I ever joined a mastermind I remember being so like, imposter syndrome, like am I even worthy of being in here because all the qualifications that were required to get into that mastermind. And then I remember going into it and being told, okay, the only value we got out of this mastermind was meeting you. And I was like, I was worried about coming into the room. And I'm realizing that wasn't a match. But their qualification process was so intense that I thought I was, I had to qualify, but all these other people were let in that were not, you know, and so it was this mismatch of things. But I bring that up because it's still, they all, eventually, a group of them became my clients because it was like, well, I got in the room where I would attract what I was building in, and I stood in integrity in that room, you know.

Lesley Logan 25:37

Yeah, I know what you mean, like, one of the first masterminds I was in, the first one who walked up, she was in fitness. And so was I, so am I. And she shared this was a brag and so she does her brag. I'm like, I am not someone who brags. I'm much better bragging now, but this is not how I was (inaudible) And so she does her big bragging. I was like, she has to pass. I'm seeing her the whole time going, what am I bragging about? Like, you know, so I wasn't even listening to anyone else. After she went, I'm like, well, I'm so screwed, you know, and then it was really funny. As I did my brag. I sat down, and the brag was also like, (inaudible) sat down and then at the end of that first day, they said, okay, we want you to partner up with people to be your accountability partner. And she, the first person went up to me, she's like, you, I think scared me enough that I'll get stuff done. I was like, I scared you?

Kareen Walsh 26:26

You'll never know. Just show up authentically.

Lesley Logan 26:28

I think that's really like the key there. You mentioned manifestation and you mentioned action. And something that I try, because people throw manifesting that word around a lot.

Kareen Walsh 26:40

Yes, they do. It is. It's a hot word.

Lesley Logan 26:43

It's a hot word. I manifested. Something that will like, makes my skin crawl is when I, Brad and I will meet people in this entrepreneurial world. And they'll say like, oh, what made you move somewhere? Like, my, like, intuition led me there and I'm like, okay, great. I manifested it. I'm like, hey, you've had to do something.

Kareen Walsh 27:02

You did something. No, manifestation does not happen without action. Otherwise, it's a dream. Manifestation is that it's literally the manifest it's the coming through of the concept. It's the tangible result. You can't get results without action. So it's just a more woowoo way of saying, you know, I have this vision, I put goals against this vision. And now this vision came to life, same way, we run things you manifested it, manifestation is the whole picture. It's the I visualized it, I did something about it, now it's here. And the visualization is so key, because that's the energy you're putting out into the world. If you do want to be more on the woowoo side, or the spiritual side, or the energy-based side, right? Like, you have to have a very clear vision of what it is that you want, or keep visualizing it like every day, put energy into that vision be like, what does it look like now? How much juicier can it be? What else can I add to it, right? And you just sit in that, and you can sit in visualization. But if you don't do anything about it, it's not going to come. A lot of people also love to say, I can't believe this person just called me today, I was exactly thinking that I wanted this thing. And I got this phone call and I got this thing. I manifested it. Right? Well, you obviously had to say something about it, or put an intention out there. You're still in action. Even that meditative moment is an action. Right? Like, and then the energy around it and how you're carrying your body and the conversations you're having and vocalizing it, then of course, it shows up for you. Because it's so prevalent in your mind that what you focus on you find, so it will show up.

Lesley Logan 28:41

Yeah, we've had several brain experts on the podcast who talked about like, the reticular activating system. It's the RAS. And to me, that is the way you could spot that something happened after you thought about it, because your brain has been seeking it out as you've been visualizing it, and asking, and then also taking some action to put yourself in those rooms and those spaces and those opportunities. You wouldn't even like notice, or, you know, Brad, and I've been in some random places were like, wow, that's so crazy that that happened. We ended up making a wrong turn here. It's like, well, no, it's not that crazy. If you think about my brain was seeking out for this thing and the reason we noticed it on that right turn is because my brain was thinking about it, my brain has been thinking about it.

Kareen Walsh 29:24

And then you have to say something out loud. So then for Brad to turn the vehicle to go to that destination.

Lesley Logan 29:30

Yeah. Yeah.

Kareen Walsh 29:32

Because if you just sat there and be like, oh, I thought about that thing. And I was, you just drove right past it. That's not gonna manifest what you were hoping for, like there was still an action, you know, I mean, that brain power is definitely an energy zone and it interacts with what's around us and like, call it in but you will not see it until you actually.

Lesley Logan 29:55

So I have one more question for you though on this because I meet a lot of people who like I don't even know what to manifest. I don't even know what my goals are. And part of me is like, is it that they're they don't feel worthy? Or is it that they are scared? Like, do you think that we don't know what our goals are? That there's an opportunity? Or is it just that we get so far away that it feels like lost? Like it's too far away?

Kareen Walsh 30:17

I think it's a mix of all the things I think each individual as their journey on, like, who they're becoming, right, and who they are today might not be who they had hoped to be once, right? And so we generally want things out in the world because it represents a part of us that we're trying to put out there. Right? No one really wakes up and says, I want to go do this shit job today, like, that's not the desire, right? Like, you wake up and you're like, I want purpose. And I want, I want to feel desire, and I want to find connection. And I, you know, the human needs are still the same for all of us. I want some variety. I want some excitement, you know, and sometimes when we get into a monotonous way of living, we convince ourselves again, it's that same energy, we convince ourselves, we're fine, that we're not looking inward as to why our vision is not clear. And I think that's, that is the inner awakening that has to happen to say, the worthiness of dreaming again, because you talked about self-worth, I think, when we sit in the I don't know energy, I'm fine. If you're sitting there, you're doing a lot of shoulder shrugging in your life, right? Like, ah, like, there's no real excitement to the life that you've been given that is so freakin short. Like I said, time is so limited. That that's the shakeup I would do first, to allow yourself to realize what I have been showing up for is no longer a fit for who I am, or who I desired to be. Shake it up. Shake it up and allow yourself to dream again and say now from this dance without all the veil of darkness of the things I've been tolerating or the things I've been convincing myself, I'm okay with, how can I dream from this place? What do I want the what I want this best version of me to have not the fine version, the fine version of you gets mediocre results, right? The best version of you gets you good results, the outstanding version of you will get you excellent results. Like it's really again that and interaction of energy and like what you focus on, but I would say if anyone is sitting in that energy of self-doubt and procrastination, even like we talked about earlier, or just uncertainty of like, what do I do next? I would say do the inner work to understand what's not working right now in my life, that I would like to uplevel and shift, you know.

Lesley Logan 32:50

I think, I mean, I know you're right, I believe exactly what you're saying because especially if the people around you are making you doubt yourself. That's not an environment for growth of any ideas. And so you do have to shake it up. Or if you can't change that situation, you do have to find a place to like,park yourself during the day to at least have moments where you can have yourself be poured into and there's so many different ways now to get poured into by people for free. Because the podcasts that are out there, (inaudible) this person is my mentor.

Kareen Walsh 33:24

Yeah, no, you really can and listen to the conversations, but then do the work to say okay, how do I now integrate that thought that really inspired me into action in my life? Right? Like there's there's something about absorbing it all, which is amazing. But if you're a perpetual student, and not someone who takes action towards what it is that you feel you want next, there's a it's a mismatch, right? You're going to be back in that fine shoulder shrugging situation. So finding the courage to take action and even the smallest ones, like I always say, you know, two minutes a day on that new thing. Then make it four minutes, then make it five minutes, then, you know, then the half an hour or whatever that is, and just stand in it for a little longer to realize it's a fit or not. Yeah, because sometimes we also have these aspirational things. I love that person was so inspiring, so aspirational. I want to go that direction. You try it on yourself. And you're like, oh, it was not a fit like this is not what I'm meant to be, that's great for them, not for me. So permission to move on. Right?

Lesley Logan 34:25

Yeah, I love, everyone else who is listening, I've been hobby hunting. I really love this hobby that I picked up this at the end of this year. I'm like, I'm gonna give it 12 weeks because like, I've picked it up before and I'm gonna give it 12 weeks. And I was like, I really just wanted to do it at home because every place I have to go to it's late at night (inaudible) and so I like this, but I don't like how it's existing out there. And so it's not that I like quit it. It's just like it's on pause until it can be (inaudible) convenient. Yeah, yeah.

Kareen Walsh 34:50

Exactly and I liked the note removing excuses. Do you know what I mean? Like by bringing it in, then there's no longer excuse of timing or like the mismatch of schedule or it can travel with you, or whatever that looks like.

Lesley Logan 35:04

Yeah, and I think and I do think it's that I love that you mentioned earlier, it's like permission to change your mind, it's okay. And also doing that inner work to really understand how you want to tap into your power and who you want to be.

Kareen Walsh 35:15

It's also a permission to fumble. Right? So that's the other permissioning that I tend to, to share where it's like, for example, if I'm gonna go do like a keynote talk, and I always am like, I might trip up those stairs, like, I might trip up those stairs on my way out there, I might forget my words, or I might, I might blank out, you know, and now I can literally sit and all the fear of the what ifs that could go wrong. And I have to give myself permission to fumble, because I will recover. Right? We will always step back up like, you trip, you step back up, you fall, you get up like there's—to only focus on the negative and not the what could happen once that happens, like what you choose to do in that moment. So I also give myself permission to fumble.

Lesley Logan 35:59

Well, our mutual friend Chelsea Peitz has found that there is scientific research that people will trust people who make mistakes publicly more than the perfectly curated (inaudible) like yeah.

Kareen Walsh 36:12

It's relatable. We all fumble, we are all human. There isn't a perfect way to do anything. It's just the right way for right now. And it's can be super messy. So like, step into it. And it's actually quite beautiful. I, personally, when I do fall, because I do, I laugh at myself, because I think I always think of the perspective of someone watching me falling. (Inaudible) I know, it literally is like, oh my god, if someone was standing there and saw me (inaudible) that's hilarious.

Lesley Logan 36:41

Yeah, I have super long legs. I'm like how am I still standing? They're doing something down there.

Kareen Walsh 36:49

But imagine the perspective of someone else watching it. I don't know. I just think it's funny.

Lesley Logan 36:53

I walked into a pole once. And I laughed so hard. At first I was stunned and I was like, how many people drove by to watch me just like, walk right into that pole?

Kareen Walsh 37:06

My favorite one was last summer I was in Nantucket and on an electric bike and getting used to it. I'm not a bike rider because I had an accident when I was seven that like messed up my face. And so anyway, I got on this electric bike and I'm doing this turn and this lawn service truck was supposed to go around this roundabout. And so I was gauging as if it was gonna move and it didn't move. So I like I had to Jimmy around and ended up slamming into a parked jeep. And I like shoulder-checked it, right? Like I was like, oh, like this and then I backed up. I was like, the car is okay. I was more concerned about, it was so funny. Like the things that happen when you're in the moment you just don't know (inaudible) on the bike and I went

Lesley Logan 37:54

That's one way to be it till you see it, like, just start laughing at yourself (inaudible) and you probably come somebody doesn't actually take yourself to seriously.

Kareen Walsh 38:03

So in trying when you try new things too, give it a few attempts, but allow yourself the fun of trying something new. That's like being a kid again. You know, and I don't think we do that enough either. And again, that brings the dreams back or the more kid-like you are the more playful you are go color go dance, go do the things that all of a sudden lights you up comes back to you.

Lesley Logan 38:25

I went to circus school as I wanted because I live where there's a circus school and I want and they had this like trial thing. You could try a different circus thing. So I knew for a fact that I wasn't gonna do trapeze. One of it was at the end. And it was like, I didn't have 90 minutes. I had like 75 And I was like there is in zero lifetime am I letting go of that? Thanks. I don't want to get stuck up. I just, I know myself enough to know that's a little beyond my skill level today. Doesn't mean it's a never it's just not right now. So, but, I'm in this circus class. It's me and two boys and the boys are seven and 11 (inaudible) so, their moms are they're like watching (inaudible) watching this try out silks and watching the trampolines and I was like, oh, trampoline, (inaudible) like this. I loved I had the best time they were doing 7/11 year old students, right, and I was there like having the best time. I laughed out loud. They were like trying to bounce me off (inaudible) the moms just were like (inaudible).

Kareen Walsh 39:27

(Inaudible) did we hire a nanny and forget?

Lesley Logan 39:31

(Inaudible) this ball pit and I was like, I don't know, guys, can you go first? Because like, I don't know, they, like, you know, did seven-year-old (inaudible) okay, I could do it, too. But I was like (inaudible) because I'm like, I'm 40 in a (inaudible) class, but you, it really made me you get this dopamine high then you're like I can like life is actually quite fun. So good. We can keep going. But so we'll just have to have you back.

Kareen Walsh 39:57

Yeah, any time.

Lesley Logan 39:58

But I want to ask where people can find you, follow you, work with you?

Kareen Walsh 40:00

Sure. So well, obviously, if you want access to the new platform, it's HeyKareen.com and just join the waitlist so that you get first to know because I'm, that's going to hopefully come out this summer. I don't know when this episode will air , but.

Lesley Logan 40:13

Probably at the same time. (Inaudible) waitlist (inaudible)

Kareen Walsh 40:16

Or you'll be able to download it because it's just phenomenal. So that's HeyKareen.com. And then anything to work with me truly like the latest thing that I've launched for more in depth strategic time that I think is a nice quick hit, is that I have a four hour half day strategy session that I offer now. That is Kareenwalsh.com/halfday, if you're interested in like a quick spurt of like, what am I doing that needs to shift in order to like, achieve what I want to achieve this year in business. That's a really nice way to get started. And you just like, apply there, and then we'll figure out a time to work together. But truly, like, if you're wanting to step into vision work, and like, reignite, that I would download my SLP program, which helps you go through my vision exercises, and then jump into action and strategy on how to achieve it. So that's a korean.com/slp.

Lesley Logan 41:10

Perfect, I'll put all those in the show notes. You've given us a lot of action steps already. So if you want to bring him back, we can but we all have to give the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it something that's like the "too long" it's not that they didn't listen, but they're like, hold on,

Kareen Walsh 41:31

What do I take away?

Lesley Logan 41:32

Got to do some action. Because yes, I love, you know, how I built this, But how the hell do you take the next step? So, anything you have for us?

Kareen Walsh 41:42

I mean, if you really want to step into a life of like integrity of who you're meant to become, and like how to manifest it, if we want to use that word or achieve it or just stand in it, like have it actually be what you're proud of showing up in? I would say the best action first is to look inward and assess where are you out of integrity, and see what you can do to tweak that to make it a little bit better. Because even just that small seven, it's actually a big exercise, but it in the sense of like the inner work to do and to look inward. But I feel like if you're able to do that, then you'll have a better clearer lens on what you truly desire. So what you want to actually be becomes clearer. It's it's an inner work step. But I feel like without that, everything else is just more noise.

Lesley Logan 42:38

Yeah, it is more stuff. And like we don't need we don't always need more.

Kareen Walsh 42:42

We know a lot of the how but I've been focusing a lot about the who, who do we have to become to stand in the life and the business we want to lead? Yeah. And that's one of the first steps.

Lesley Logan 42:54

Yeah, you have been helping me this year a lot. Because I was like, sometimes feeling stuck. But I was like, how do we if we want to go to another level? Like, I gotta go to another level. How do I go? Who do I need to be to this thing? And also, like, I'm gonna know that I never did what I did before now. So now it's like, another thing. And really like thinking about that, who and like, what that is? And what does that look like? And what does that feel like? And what are the words around that? What is the schedule around that?

Kareen Walsh 43:24

What do you have to let go to create room for it like, yeah, so the whole part is more of what I've been focusing on to be it until you see it.

Lesley Logan 43:34

I love that. No one's ever focused on the who in over 400 episodes. So thank you, Kareen, for that. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Kareen, tag the Be It Pod. Let us know and do us a favor, share this with a friend if you've got that friend who has been shrugging, shrugging. You should send this to them. You only have to tell them, hey, you've been (inaudible) a lot. You can just send it to them and then they'll hear (inaudible) We can do that for them. So thank you all so very much for being who you are. Kareen, thank you for being you. And until next time, everyone, be it till you see it.

Lesley Logan 44:09

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Lesley Logan 44:36

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Brad Crowell 44:51

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