455. Why Persistence Is the Ultimate Act of Courage

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In this recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on Kelsey Lensman’s inspiring Mission48 journey, where she completed 48 fitness competitions in 48 states in 48 days. They explore the courage required to step out of your comfort zone, the power of persistence in achieving big goals, and the importance of showing up even when faced with challenges. Discover how enduring and learning through the process is key to being it till you see it.


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In this episode you will learn about:

  • How Kelsey Lensman redefined courage through Mission48.
  • The power of setting boundaries to focus on priorities and say no to distractions.
  • Tips for finding growth and self-discovery through bold, uncomfortable actions.
  • Why persistence and process-oriented growth are key to achieving your ambitions.
  • How to redefine failure and celebrate the pursuit of meaningful goals.


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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

I like that she did this. I like that she trained like this. I think it's really inspirational. You guys don't have to be into fitness to do this. You can actually think, what could I commit to over a period of time that would challenge me in my comfort zone and just be okay with giving it a try? What could I do? 


Lesley Logan 0:16  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.


Lesley Logan 0:58  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I

 are going to dig into the impactful convo I had with Kelsey Lensman in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you've missed out on a really fun chick. She is cool as fuck. I really enjoyed her. So you can go back and listen that one, come back and listen to this one. You can listen to this one. You're already here and then go back and listen to that one. 


Lesley Logan 1:18  

But first, Today is December 5th 2024 and it's Celebrate Shelter Pets Day. We're just going to celebrate shelter pets? You should go adopt a shelter pet today. 


Brad Crowell 1:28  

That's exactly what this is all about. 


Lesley Logan 1:30  

Celebrate Shelter Pets Day is on the first Thursday after Thanksgiving. The day brings awareness to pets such as dogs and cats that are in shelters. A lot of people often think of adopting a pet from a shelter home, but they don't always follow through that thought, because they think there's somethingwrong with shelter pets. They are wrong. Most people who have adopted shelter pets can testify that shelter groups are full of great pets that provide companionship. There are, unfortunately, some pets in the shelter that are deemed unadoptable because of fear, perceived aggression or anxiety. But even these issues can be managed if addressed properly. Did you know it takes a dog three days to relax in the stress of being in a shelter. Then it takes three weeks for them to understand your routine, and then by three months, they are fully in your family. So y'all who are buying pretty dogs who you're trying to convince me it's because your allergies. They come with their own problems, too. In fact, a lot of purebreds have a lot of problems. So we highly recommend a little mix of a mutt of some kind. They're super fun. Also, some of these shelter dogs are being fostered in a home. You can also find out right away if they're good with kids or dogs, because the shelters find this out. So when I follow all the local animal adopted in Las Vegas, and they'll go Duchess. She's a tripod, super great with kids who are gentle, not good with other dogs. She needs to be your only Duchess in the house. There's a really, they know these things. 


Brad Crowell 2:51  

They're trying to set these dogs up for success. 


Lesley Logan 2:52  

Yeah. And when you buy a dog, you don't know. You don't know. You don't know. You have no idea what that puppy's gonna be like. You don't know. So we highly recommend it. 


Brad Crowell 3:01  

We've done that. 


Lesley Logan 3:02  

We all, Bayon was at a kill shelter.


Brad Crowell 3:04  

Yeah, Gaia, I rescued her. She wasn't from a shelter, but Bayon was at a kill shelter.


Lesley Logan 3:06  

Before you rescued her, she'd been rescued from another shelter. Look at that dog had been handed over three different families by the time you had gotten her, and she was great.


Brad Crowell 3:18  

Yeah, four paperwork with four different owners names, yeah. And then August was also in a shelter here in Vegas. 


Lesley Logan 3:23  

Yeah. And he, you know, he took his time (inaudible). 


Brad Crowell 3:26  

Pretty sure they were not a kill shelter here in Vegas, but still, (inaudible) shelter.


Lesley Logan 3:28  

No, no. So anyways, go find out. If you are unsure of what to do. You can also foster a dog that you think you might like, and then foster fail. Or if you're like, wow, you know, this isn't working out. That's not what I thought. Then you just fostered, and you did, and also, when they're outside of the shelter, they're less stressed out, and they have a lot less fear. So I highly recommend it. Yeah, it's a holiday. Yeah, you're busy. You know what? Cuddling with a dog makes everything better right now, I've been (inaudible). 


Lesley Logan 3:29  

Upcoming events. We're going back to Cambodia. Well, actually, when you hear this, we're literally on the road for the tour. So I'm just going to say that. 


Brad Crowell 3:59  

Well, yeah but 


Lesley Logan 4:00  

We're on the road for the tour.


Brad Crowell 4:02  

That's the fourth announcement. So, sure. 


Lesley Logan 4:07  

Okay, got it. When we, but soon, we'll be back in Cambodia. And many of you have asked if you could move there. We highly recommend you visiting with us before you ask to move into our house at Cambodia. So yes, we have a house there. You get to stay with us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot in February. I know it's around the corner, but we go at the end of February, so plenty of time to snag your spot.


Brad Crowell 4:28  

Yeah, and the end of (inaudible), yeah, you can't apply for your visa yet. It's too soon, and still plenty of time to get your plane tickets. So come join us. And like Lesley said, I would recommend coming in and hanging out first before you decide to move permanently. But if you wanted to move permanently, I'm sure you could figure that out too. 


Lesley Logan 4:46  

Yeah, while you're there, you could just stay. They do have rules around that, so you can't just stay. But there's ways around it, all right? There's ways to figure it out. I've only been home for a few days, since the shoot for the Accessories Flash Card Deck. Last deck in the six-deck series of Pilates exercises, we just did it, and it's not our biggest deck, it's not our smallest deck, it's right there in the middle. We want to make sure it's extra affordable to add to your collection. And only those on the waitlist are going to get the presale price. What's the presale price? Well, it's the best price you'll ever get on the deck. So you want to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. I don't know why that's so hard for me to say multiple times, but opc.me/ maybe it's the slash. 


Brad Crowell 5:30  

It's the slash, flash. 


Lesley Logan 5:31  

Flash, flashcard waitlist, yes. 


Brad Crowell 5:36  

opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. 


Lesley Logan 5:37  

Yeah. And it's free to be on the list but you all just had to buy your cards when you're ready. When we have the presale, don't miss it. If you are late, it's too late. 


Brad Crowell 5:45  

All right. So I've been doing accelerator webinars this year, and it's been great. We've had, I mean, I don't know, hundreds of people go through them over the last couple of months, and it's been really nice to get people thinking, challenging them a little bit, and also sharing some of the things that we've learned after coaching more than 2000 businesses about how to make money with your studio and how to double your income, literally. But that's it for this year, because we're obviously on the road right now. I'd love to host them, but I can't trust the internet when we're, I don't even know where we'll be. 


Lesley Logan 6:16  

Time zones. You know, dogs. 


Brad Crowell 6:18  

Time zones, everything. It's complicated. So I'll be picking them back up again next year, and I absolutely encourage you to come join me. It's free. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator. And that'll help you. If you're feeling stuck in your business at all, this is going to help get the ball rolling for you. So come join me next year. I'd love to have you. 


Lesley Logan 6:39  

Yeah, and then we're on tour. It starts.


Brad Crowell 6:43  

Tomorrow. Literally, tomorrow. 


Lesley Logan 6:44  

Tomorrow, the first of 22 cities starts tomorrow.


Brad Crowell 6:48  

But we're already on the road as it stands right now. We left a couple days early, just to. 


Lesley Logan 6:52  

We stayed at Don Hoel's cabin. 


Brad Crowell 6:55  

Don Hoel. 


Lesley Logan 6:56  

Don Hoel.


Brad Crowell 6:57  

 Don Hoel. H-O-E-L in Sedona. 


Lesley Logan 7:02  

Yep and we're super close to that our favorite coffee shop in Sedona (inaudible) 


Brad Crowell 7:07  

Indian Gardens. Yeah, that's a, that place is amazing. But we'll be down in Cottonwood teacher class, and then we head off to Oklahoma City.


Lesley Logan 7:16  

Oklahoma City. Then it is Atlanta? 


Brad Crowell 7:19  

Huntsville. 


Lesley Logan 7:20  

Oh, Huntsville, Alabama. Alabama is before Atlanta. 


Brad Crowell 7:22  

Yep. And then we're gonna. 


Lesley Logan 7:24  

I know the globe. I know it. I'm gonna.


Brad Crowell 7:25  

We're gonna pit stop in Nashville to hang with a couple friends before we go down to Atlanta where we teach. 


Lesley Logan 7:30  

Oh, yeah, I got it up now. I got the dates, all right. Then we go to Greensboro, North Carolina. Then we're in DC. I'm gonna tell you this as of the time we're recording this, Huntsville is super sold. It's been so fucking sold out you can't, do not pass go. Meet us in Atlanta. Greensboro then we have Washington DC, that's super sold out both workshops and or both classes and workshops. 


Brad Crowell 7:52  

For those in Washington DC, you can swing around the bay and join us in Virginia Beach later or you can go north to Hershey. 


Lesley Logan 8:00  

Hold on, stick around. You'll find out where we're going next. 


Lesley Logan 8:02  

So Hershey, Pennsylvania, at the time recording this has one spot in the class, and the workshop is almost sold out. Then we're going to Portland Maine. Then we're coming back down to Boston, Massachusetts, only room in the workshop there. Cape Cod, Massachusetts, only room in the workshop there. Greenwich, Connecticut. We have a mat class. Virginia Beach, you can, that's for those DC people, you can come around to the Virginia Beach, there'e spot in the workshop.


Brad Crowell 8:25  

I mean, it's a three-hour drive, I think, for them, from DC. But, come join.


Lesley Logan 8:27  

Whatever. Those Virginia Beach people drove down to Greensboro, it's like seven hours or something. 


Brad Crowell 8:32  

So here's what's crazy y'all. Last year we were in Greensboro, and five people drove from Virginia Beach to Greensboro, which is five plus hours drive. And this year we decided to go to them. So, you know, come surprise us. Come hang out. We are, we love your enthusiasm. Come and hang.


Lesley Logan 8:48  

We're going to Charleston, South Carolina, then Miami, last class of the of the year of 2024, but not the tour. Then we head up to Tampa, Florida, Pensacola, Florida, which, at the time we're recording this, I think it's, someone just bought all the tickets.


Brad Crowell 9:04  

I think the workshop has like. 


Lesley Logan 9:05  

I think it's sold out. 


Brad Crowell 9:07  

That's it. Sold out. 


Lesley Logan 9:07  

There's room in the class. 


Brad Crowell 9:08  

Yeah, room in the class. 


Lesley Logan 9:09  

New Orleans, that class has been sold out. But you, at the time we're recording this, had three spots left in your workshop. I don't think that that's gonna last. Austin, Texas, we are coming back. Your class is sold out, but there are room, there is room in the workshops because Aligned Pilates has such a huge space, which is really, really nice. Dallas, Texas, that class is sold out, but there's room in the workshop Lubbock, Texas and then Phoenix, Arizona. That's where we're ending. Class is sold out, but a few spots left in the workshop. You guys, this tour is more than 50% sold out at the time we're recording this, which is three weeks before we start, which means this is going to be huge. It's going to be a party. 


Brad Crowell 9:45  

It is going to be a party. 


Lesley Logan 9:46  

You don't want to miss it. And also, if you haven't seen the merch.


Brad Crowell 9:48  

She has good merch. I was just gonna say that.


Lesley Logan 9:53  

opc.me/tourmerch


Brad Crowell 9:54  

Yeah. Go to opc.me/tourmerch our designer made us look like we are, rock stars. 


Lesley Logan 9:59  

Rappers. 


Brad Crowell 10:00  

Yeah, we're in a band looking awesome.


Lesley Logan 10:02  

Yeah, it's so great. I'm gonna, I'm obviously bringing the pink coat on this tour. We can't leave it behind, you know. Anyways, before we get into the episode, we had a question from someone on YouTube.


Brad Crowell 10:14  

Yeah, we totally did. So Pie and Lattes on YouTube asked hey, "Is there a secret to reducing spring noise on a [Pilates] chair?" 


Lesley Logan 10:26  

Yeah. So first of all, all equipment like Cadillac tower type stuff, those can make noise. Even some of the springs on the reformer can make some noise. I haven't really had that as much of an issue as for sure, the tower and the Wunda chair. Here's what I've noticed. When it gets colder, my chair makes different noises. 


Brad Crowell 10:44  

Oh, that's interesting.


Lesley Logan 10:44  

There's a weather situation to it. The other thing is, if you get some 3-IN-ONE and you put it on a cloth, and then you take the cloth and you wipe the inside of the ringlet that the hooks are on. 


Brad Crowell 10:45  

Oh, sure. 


Lesley Logan 10:45  

That kind of oils it up.


Brad Crowell 10:51  

Because the spring is kind of sliding (inaudible).


Lesley Logan 11:02  

Yeah. So it's just metal on metal. So you just take some 3-IN-ONE, and you. 


Brad Crowell 11:05  

What is 3-IN-ONE? 


Lesley Logan 11:06  

I don't, it's like an oil. So honestly, okay, do not try this without talking to your manufacturer. But one like. 


Brad Crowell 11:13  

Oh, yeah, it's just an oil. 


Lesley Logan 11:14  

She didn't want to go buy 3-IN-ONE, so she just took olive oil and she just sprayed it on her chair hooks. And that's fine, too. I think it don't, I wouldn't spray on the springs, but on the hook.


Brad Crowell 11:24  

I mean, a bottle of 3-IN-ONE is 3.79. 


Lesley Logan 11:28  

Yeah. So you're take, so I saw this guy, he just sprayed it on the eye hook of things, but then it kind of like, didn't drip, but it cuddled on the eye hook. So I honestly, just douse a towel and I wipe the inside. And if you and I only really have to do that in the cold season, I don't really need to do it on the (inaudible). I don't know. I think it depends on where you are, but that's how you do it. And then the other thing you can do is actually change how the hooks, not every chair lets you do this, but some chairs let you, like my Contrology chair, I can share, I can change which way the hooks kind of open up a little bit. So I can. 


Brad Crowell 12:04  

Just twist it. 


Lesley Logan 12:05  

I can just twist it just a little bit. And sometimes that also just that also helps. So check your weather. Maybe warm up your house a little bit also, I'm not saying make your house humid, but have a humidifier in there that can also just keep things feeling really good, you know, like, one of those little store ones not gonna rust your springs, like you're in Maui or something like that. But that's what I would suggest you do. And if you're like, What is a Wunda chair, what is 3-IN-ONE? Hi, I'm Lesley Logan. Welcome to the podcast. We answer random questions here. I am a wealth of knowledge.


Brad Crowell 12:06  

And humble too. If you have a question, feel free to text it to us, 310-905-5534, text us and just say hey, question for the pod, or you can send us a voicemail on Instagram or whatever. Yeah. Anyway, love it. Love the questions. Keep them coming. Thank you very much. Stick around. We're going to be talking about, how can somebody do 48 competitions, fitness competitions in 48 days, in just a minute. 


Brad Crowell 13:03  

Okay. Welcome back. Okay. Kelsey Lensman is a nutrition, fitness and mindset coach with expertise in sports medicine and training techniques, a former Ohio State rower. Kelsey founded, Xpand Your Limits, to empower women to reach their strongest, most confident selves. Known for her Mission48 journey, completing 48 fitness competitions in 48 states, over 48 days. Kelsey is passionate about helping others step out of their comfort zones, do hard things and discover what they are truly capable of. 


Lesley Logan 13:36  

Can you imagine, this is not like she did 48 Iron Mans not that it's easy to train for that, but you know what to expect. You know how to train for that. Like we talked about the podcast, there was just, like, random things that she was doing. And so you're.


Brad Crowell 13:48  

Yeah. So you're not necessarily fully trained for all the things all the time.


Lesley Logan 13:51  

But I love this, because you're doing the best you can. If you can't go, I'm not going to do that. It's like, No, you set to do 48 things in 48 days. And so I love the commitment. I love the willingness to be bad at something. I'm not that she is could be bad anything. The girl is so fucking strong, it's annoying, but like,


Brad Crowell 14:08  

But also the perseverance, the determination, the consistency. I mean, I also, I don't know if she, she must have had somebody drive around, whether she. 


Lesley Logan 14:16  

She had to fly 48 states in 48 days. I know that the East Coast is close together, but you can't even get through California to Oregon on the same day. 


Brad Crowell 14:26  

Yeah, no, you can't, but it's possible they just drove all night. She slept. 


Lesley Logan 14:31  

Kelsey, we want to know. 


Brad Crowell 14:31  

We want to know if you (inaudible) we didn't ask that question. But that's a, that curiosity.


Lesley Logan 14:38  

She also filmed the whole thing just like a documentary. 


Brad Crowell 14:40  

Oh, that's really cool. That's smart. That's a great, so then she clearly didn't do it alone. She definitely had a team. 


Lesley Logan 14:45  

So then she had a camera on. Oh my gosh. Can you imagine? You're like, I feel like fit today, and now I've got to go rucksack something and crawl on my arms and like, rucking, and my elbows, and rucking me.


Brad Crowell 14:56  

Just gotta rucksack this one. 


Lesley Logan 14:58  

But I also love that she said you gotta be ready for the curveballs. And I think what's really cool about what she did is, like, how great it is to train your mind and body that you can kind of handle what's coming at you. And I think a lot of times we get stuck in our ways, and a lot of us are feeling a little overwhelmed, but like, all the curveballs come in our way, and we're like, we're not kind of able to roll with it, (inaudible) on some things. But I like that she did this. I like that she trained like this. I think it's really inspirational. You guys don't have to be into fitness to do this. You can actually think like, what could I commit to over a period of time that would challenge me in my comfort zone and just be okay with giving it a try? What could I do? 


Brad Crowell 15:35  

Yeah, I was just, it was called Project 48 right? Oh Mission48, Mission48 because I was wondering, did she what? 


Lesley Logan 15:42  

I don't think the documentary is out as of this. 


Brad Crowell 15:46  

So I was thinking, why did she do it? And she said on her website, it says, I'm on a mission to complete 48 competitions in 48 states in 48 days to inspire women and girls to step out of their comfort zones and show themselves they are stronger than they think. So it doesn't seem like she got paid to do this.


Lesley Logan 16:03  

No, no, she did not. She paid.


Brad Crowell 16:05  

In fact, she had to pay to do this.


Lesley Logan 16:05  

She had to pay all these things. Pay the team. That's the other thing that I think is really interesting. I was talking about this with Michele Wispelway from the first longevity episode, we were (inaudible) live today, and she was talking how she trained for a half marathon. And, you know, she's older, and when she used to run, it used to hurt her, and now it doesn't, because now she like, prepared herself for these things. And she's like, yeah, I want to show my daughter, and I want to show the women around me that just because I'm older doesn't mean I can't do this. I'm just going to reside myself. I can never run again. And I think, like, it's cool what Kelsey is doing and other people, you might even be doing. It's like putting yourself into a position where you're uncomfortable, and then tell people about it so that they can be inspired. And if your first reaction is, must be nice for Kelsey, you need to understand, that is the worst, if you are, if you've been programmed to say that, I'm going to call it programming, because I do think that someone told you that in your family, and then you've been repeating it, you ask yourself, oh, I wonder how you did that. How did you set the time aside? How did you afford to do that? What were something, like, be curious, because then you can find out, like, oh, they invested a lot of time. They invest a lot of money. This is a big risk, but it was part of the impact they wanted to make. 


Brad Crowell 17:21  

Yeah, and it looks like she partnered up with ROX, Ruling Our Experiences. It's a 501c(3) that develops confident girls who control their own relationships, experiences, decisions and futures. So it's a developing confident girls. So I just pulled up her full map for the event, and. 


Lesley Logan 17:39  

She skipped California and did Alaska. 


Brad Crowell 17:41  

I was just.


Lesley Logan 17:42  

I'm joking. I don't know. I don't have it in front of me. Wouldn't that be funny? She was like, it's too long.


Brad Crowell 17:47  

No, no, it's every state in the United States contiguous states. So she skipped Alaska and Hawaii, those are the two she skipped. Otherwise, she did all 48 contiguous states, you know, like, I know we said 48 states in 48 days but looking at them


Lesley Logan 18:04  

Do you, like, think she repeated Florida or something? What do you think happened? 


Brad Crowell 18:08  

She just went between Georgia and Florida 24 times in each state. 48 states, 48 days.


Lesley Logan 18:13  

That's the most boring drive. I would die. 


Brad Crowell 18:17  

No, she went from, like, Pennsylvania, she went from Pensacola to Mobile, Alabama, just like. 


Lesley Logan 18:21  

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 


Brad Crowell 18:23  

No, no, no, no, no.


Lesley Logan 18:24  

And by the way, Florida, I don't hate you. It's just you gotta be honest with you gotta (inaudible) is pretty boring and windy.


Brad Crowell 18:31  

Yeah, and windy, and windy. But no, it's impressive to see all the pins on the map she has on her site. Anyway, impressive. Incredible. Go Kelsey. So I really loved when she was talking about courage. She stressed that courage in the pursuit is something that you should be so damn proud of, right? Just think about for every one of you who has decided to change your career and teach Pilates instead of do whatever you want to college for because none of us went to college to teach Pilates, right? Or maybe you decided that. 


Lesley Logan 19:01  

There are a few people who got their Pilates certification out of college. It does happen. 


Brad Crowell 19:05  

It is real? That can happen? I mean, kinesiology, I can understand, or, like. 


Lesley Logan 19:09  

(inaudible) community college, or people became a PT, if you're like Brad and I and you went to college for a degree that you technically don't use, and paid a ton of money for it.


Brad Crowell 19:21  

Or for those of you who were teaching somewhere and decided to venture out on your own and open your own space, there are so many variables and so many unknowns, and we try to support everyone that we can through Profitable Pilates with those kinds of decisions in our industry. But still, it's a scary thing, right? And for Kelsey, I mean, just think about that, could you do 48 things in 48 days, let alone compete?


Lesley Logan 19:45  

I would say, in my 30s, not a problem. In my 30s, if you and I had done the a 30 day, a 40 day tour, or something like that, I would be like, that sounds so fun. 


Brad Crowell 19:57  

Babe, you're not a day older than 29 What are you talking about? 


Lesley Logan 19:59  

Yeah, but I will say currently, today, I could do every other day for 48 days, or I could do five day and I just, here's what.


Brad Crowell 20:10  

Needs some days off.


Lesley Logan 20:10  

I think. And also, let me just, let me just caveat this, I probably could have done her thing, the competition thing. Not that I would like to go rucking.


Brad Crowell 20:20  

Rucksacking? 


Lesley Logan 20:20  

Yeah, doesn't mean I'll crawl my hands and elbows, but like, probably could have been physically active 48 days in 48 states. I think for me, what I just why, I think I (inaudible) is like, I'm pouring into people. I'm leading the things for 48 that I could do. But if I was to, could I read a book, one book a day for 48 days? I could do that. 


Brad Crowell 20:39  

Of course, of course.


Lesley Logan 20:40  

Could I participate in the competition? 


Brad Crowell 20:42  

No, I think it's about the physicality, is what I meant. Anyway, the reality is, it's a scary thought. There's a lot of unknowns. 


Lesley Logan 20:48  

She's now doing 100-mile. 


Brad Crowell 20:50  

That's and she's actually running on the second to last day of the year, or the last day of the year, can't remember, but we should all wish her luck, y'all on on the IG.


Lesley Logan 20:58  

(inaudible) we were squishy. We're cheering you on, and we're so excited you're doing this.


Brad Crowell 21:02  

But she's talking about something being, you know, be proud of yourself to even pursue it. It takes courage. And so she said, the courage in the pursuit is something you should be so damn proud of. Courage in continual persistence is something to be proud of from a daily standpoint. 


Lesley Logan 21:17  

Yeah, I think that that's worth rehearing from her and us, were you saying the courage and the pursuit of something you should be just so damn proud of? I think we all have been, maybe not all, but I there's that importance of winning. If you don't win, you've lost, and I think that can hurt really. It can sting really bad when you work so hard for playing, but really, actually just in attempting something and trying and putting yourself out there and putting yourself an experience that's not something everyone is doing, and being proud of what you actually did do is really, really cool, and you can actually learn from that, versus being obsessed with a failure, you don't learn from anything like judging yourself or being hard on yourself. I know we talked about it in the episode. I'm almost positive, but there is a hormone that actually you get even from just the pursuit of doing something, not the completion of it. 


Brad Crowell 22:04  

Oh, okay. 


Lesley Logan 22:05  

You actually get dopamine from the pursuit.


Brad Crowell 22:07  

Oh, yeah, yeah. We talked about this today or yesterday. 


Lesley Logan 22:11  

Yeah, yeah. You actually get dopamine from the pursuit. And so you don't actually have. 


Brad Crowell 22:17  

That's the journey. 


Lesley Logan 22:18  

Yeah, it's all about the you know that cliche, even your body cares about that cliche. So, yeah, I think I don't know she's really cool. Makes me want to do, I won't do 48 things in 48 days, but I will do something that challenged me outside my comfort zone in 2025


Brad Crowell 22:33  

All right, well stick around. We're going to cover those, be it action items, in just a minute. 


Brad Crowell 22:37  

All right, so finally, let's talk about those. Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kelsey Lensman? 


Lesley Logan 22:48  

Why don't you go first? 


Brad Crowell 22:49  

Okay, I'll go first this time. For those of you who don't know what she's laughing at she's laughing at me. 


Lesley Logan 22:55  

There'll be a blooper. You can hear it at the end.


Brad Crowell 22:57  

There might be a blooper at the end. All right, here we go. So she said, hey, you have to say no to some things, even if the people-pleaser in you would have said yes. Okay? And so she was talking about when she made the decision to, well, do the 48 in 48 in 48 that causes you to make a change, because now you have to be hyper aware of some things, and you have to make sure you're getting enough sleep. You have to make sure all the things so you're going to change a lot in the short term to get that long term goal. So you have to be willing to say no to some things, even if you are a people pleaser. 


Lesley Logan 23:32  

You know what's really cool? There's a book called Stop Pleasing out there the world, y'all, and I think if that Be It Action Item is something like, oh, I don't know if I could do it. Then there's a, there's some reading material to go along with it. Because I agree, you have to be able to say no to things. Otherwise you can't do the 48 in 48. You can't even. Like, it's some people like, they want to read more. I had everyone asked the other day, babe, you and I, like, (inaudible) to all of our books that we really love. And people were like, please distract me. What should I read? And we're like, here's 17,000 books. And like, how do you have time? And it's like, what? You gotta say no to the things that do not lift you up. You know?


Brad Crowell 24:07  

Yeah. So she talked about enforcing boundaries and how that contributed to her development. Allowed her to prioritize her goal over pleasing others. It enabled her to build a stronger, more focused mindset around the 48 for 48. And I think there still needs to be some kind of a reward, even though the journey does give you dopamine, there still needs to be some kind of celebration at the end, after you complete this goal, this big goal. But, you know, I think that boundaries are hard, so we get that. But she said you just have to be really focused on where you're going, where you're headed. 


Lesley Logan 24:39  

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 


Brad Crowell 24:40  

What about you?


Lesley Logan 24:41  

Sign up for something that scares the crap out of you. 


Brad Crowell 24:44  

Oh, I love that. 


Lesley Logan 24:44  

Yeah. So you don't have to do what she did, but find something that scares you. I've talked about it before on the pod, but just in case you forgot, on my 40th birthday, I went to the circus place. Is that what we were talking about, did I talk about it in this episode? 


Brad Crowell 24:56  

Yes, you were talking about it with her. 


Lesley Logan 24:57  

Well, if you didn't listen to it, I did that, and it was. I was like, oh, my God, it's so embarrassing. And also, it was so great, right? I probably should go try the trapeze, but I will never let go of that trapeze like stuck in the middle, off to crawl across the net. Anyways. But.


Brad Crowell 25:15  

Well, side note, you mentioned that it's a 40,000 square foot facility, and you said Brad will probably correct me, so I went to their website, okay? Because I was now very curious, and then I literally


Lesley Logan 25:25  

Anyone who had not listened to that episode, I was talking about this huge circus school. 


Brad Crowell 25:29  

It's called The Circus Center, Las Vegas Circus Center. 


Lesley Logan 25:32  

And it's not 40,000 square feet, babe, how many square feet? 


Brad Crowell 25:35  

It's 52,000 square feet. 


Lesley Logan 25:38  

52,000 square feet. He had a call, and they gave it to him. 


Brad Crowell 25:40  

It is massive. 


Lesley Logan 25:41  

And then that made me go what's the rent on 52,000 square feet? 


Brad Crowell 25:46  

It's a warehouse. It's like a huge warehouse but all done up on the inside. 


Lesley Logan 25:51  

Does anyone get, does anyone get rentals for under $1 a square foot? 


Brad Crowell 25:54  

There has to be, it has to be. 


Lesley Logan 25:55  

It has to be. 


Brad Crowell 25:56  

No way that the rent is 50 grand a month. 


Lesley Logan 25:58  

There's no way. 50 grand a month. 


Brad Crowell 25:58  

No way. Yeah, that's insane. 


Lesley Logan 26:01  

Anyways, it's really cool. You should all check it out if you're into that kind of stuff. And they have stuff for all ages, but sign up for something that scares the crap out of you. I love that this episode is coming out at the end of, towards the end of this year, before it's our last, is it our last interview before we have all of our special episodes? I think it might be. 


Brad Crowell 26:16  

It might be, let me check that. 


Lesley Logan 26:18  

I think coming up is a bunch of, like, really cool episode that we've got for you, I guess we should explain what that's going to be. 


Brad Crowell 26:23  

Yeah. Oh, we did an intro on the next episode. 


Lesley Logan 26:26  

Yeah. So what I hope you do as the rest of December comes up is like, notice what intrigues you. Notice what you're like, oh, I could never do that. And then ask yourself, well, what if I did? And then she said, show up and endure the process, and learn a lot about yourself in the process of it. So grab a journal and write, or even on your notes on your phone. I feel really anxious right now. And then, after you do it, write down how you feel. Give it a try, because you're going to learn so many things about yourself. And every time we go on tour, even though the tour itself is something we've done before, because every tour is unique, we're in different cities all the time. There's different things. We're always reflected, always learning about myself. I'm like, oh, wow, I don't do well if I don't get this kind of sleep, or if I didn't get this kind of workout, or oh, if this happens, I need this. And so you learn about yourself, and so you get better every single time you do something that's kind of being it till you see it. Really, that's what it is. Do something that scares the crap out of you and learn about yourself as you do it.


Brad Crowell 27:23  

Yeah, I love it. I was thinking about that. What is it that scares the crap out of me that I always hesitated to do? 


Lesley Logan 27:29  

A consistent Pilates practice. 


Brad Crowell 27:32  

Terrified. Well, I was thinking, you know, I've jumped out of planes and I haven't jumped off a building, but, you know, I've like, I don't know, swam in the ocean and stuff, things that can really mess with your head and I.


Lesley Logan 27:44  

All of those things scare me every time we get into the open water of the ocean. I'm like.


Brad Crowell 27:48  

But I did recently do something that scared the crap out of me. I went knocking on doors, canvassing, for this last election. I've always been willing to make phone calls and send text messages and donate money. But I've never been willing to go actually knock on doors. And I decided to I was going to go do that. And to be honest, at first, I was kind of worried. I didn't really know what I was getting into. And they partnered me up with someone who didn't have a vehicle because she had flown into Nevada to participate and she didn't have a car, so I did, and so we kind of became a pair, but she then had her flight home during my last shift that I signed up for, so I was then knocking on doors by myself. And then Daylight Savings Time happened. So it was dark at like 4:35pm and I was like, it's not even that late, but it's feels so dark right now. And then I was knocking on doors in people's neighborhood in the dark. And I was like, this is probably not that wise, but it was actually I what I found was I had only one person yell at me, and I knocked on almost 150 doors, and she answered the door anyway, and then got hissy and was frustrated, but it was actually really cool to just meet people, and I feel proud of myself for doing it, for being willing to do it, even though it's something that yeah, that actually scared me. 


Lesley Logan 29:05  

Yeah, yeah. I think that's really cool. I think a lot of people did a lot of things this last election that were probably outside of what they normally do. And I think to go back to what she said at the beginning, which is, it's gotta be ready for curveballs, and you've got to have the courage and the pursuit of something you should be so damn proud. And so for all of you, we had so many listeners add Brad who were like, Brad was not a first time participant in helping people vote and understand how to vote, but a lot of you reached out like, this is the first time you got involved in the election, and you were really trying hard, and it was such a disappointment. 


Brad Crowell 29:40  

Yeah. It was. 


Lesley Logan 29:43  

I'm still not over it, but you have to know what you did really does matter. Did matter, and it's just the start of it. And you learn something about yourself. You learn about what it took to do those things. You learned that you had the courage to step out and tell people like this is what I care about and this is why you should care about it. And have you looked at this? That is not easy to do. Most people just sit there and take it. And some of you just went through Thanksgiving sitting there having to take it, and some of you are thinking about the hell you're gonna do it at Christmas, and may I suggest you don't. But also you can stand up for yourself, and you can say what you believe, and you can say what matters to you and what you're proud of, and you can have a different opinion without being antagonistic, and you can hold space for other people. And Brad talked on over 150 homes, and only had one person get hissy about it. That's kind of. 


Brad Crowell 30:35  

And they were all 100% strangers. I kept wondering if I was going to bump into somebody that I knew. No. Didn't happen. 


Lesley Logan 30:41  

We don't know that many people.


Brad Crowell 30:46  

The statistics are not there. 


Lesley Logan 30:48  

I know. Could you imagine what if I knocked on the doors? And they're like, aren't you a Pilates instructor? Anyways, I think this is a great last interview of the year. It's technically not we have one more coming up. 


Brad Crowell 31:01  

The 10th is the new. 


Lesley Logan 31:03  

Yes, but the last Tuesday of the year. 


Brad Crowell 31:06  

Oh, yeah, we do. 


Lesley Logan 31:07  

We're getting your astrological readings for Pluto into Aquarius and Uranus into Scorpio. And if all of that sounds like gibberish to you, do not worry. We'll explain it all, and we hit everyone's sun signs, and we have the best time doing it. And between Kelsey and Mom & Me Astrology, I feel like we're ready to take on, well, I'm not ready, but we can. We can take on 2025. Plus, okay, you're gonna hear it on the next episode, but we have gone through all 400 and something episodes, and just the interviews, really, and pulled out some of our favorite parts when it comes to relationships or work or bold moments or tips, whatever, and we've put them in episodes, and they're not long. And hopefully, what this does is remind you of episodes either you haven't heard in a long time or you haven't heard yet, and gives you something to do this holiday season. If you feel like an alien in your family, we see you. And when you have air pods in your ears, you can say you're on a work call, and you can go work man, and you just, I gotta listen. And you can just sit there and listen. And you can be in your own world, getting bored into, whether or not you're in a place that feels like you're (inaudible). So I hope this helps. I hope maybe you can share those with a friend to help them, like have a potpourri of Be It interviews to hear about.


Brad Crowell 32:26  

Yeah, absolutely. Well, thanks so much for joining us. 


Lesley Logan 32:29  

I'm Lesley Logan. 


Brad Crowell 32:30  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 


Lesley Logan 32:31  

You're amazing. Until next time, be it till you see it. 


Brad Crowell 32:34  

Bye for now.


Lesley Logan 32:36  

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Brad Crowell 33:19  

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