755. Your Routine Needs a Passport

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Traveling always throws a wrench into our daily habits, but your essential self-care practices don’t have to completely vanish just because your location and time zone change. In this second travel series, Lesley Logan reveals exactly how to create a travel-sized version of your daily rituals so you can consistently hold space for yourself while on the road. You will learn to manage expectations around food and movement, set necessary boundaries with travel companions, and build a relaxing reentry plan. Prep harder, and you finally get to enjoy the trip instead of surviving it.


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In this episode you will learn about:

  • Why you must create a travel-sized daily morning routine.
  • How to research hotel room amenities to support movement practices.
  • Eat travel food without expecting everyday nutritional perfection.
  • Establishing pre-trip boundaries with your travel companions.
  • Why a reentry buffer always beats landing straight into work.


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Lesley Logan 0:00  

Sometimes when you're traveling with friends, they might not know how you travel. So I am a big proponent of having a pre-trip call of what can you expect? What do you like to do?


Lesley Logan 0:08  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.


Lesley Logan 0:51  

All right, Be It, babe. So as you heard in the last episode, I just come back from Cambodia and I prepped you for your next trip, and now I want to talk about the trip. What I do to hold space for me to take care of myself to make sure that I am really enjoying the trip that I'm taking. So the recent trip that I did is for work. My next several trips are all for work until January, when I will thankfully have a vacation. And so there's slightly different preps that we want to do depending on what it's what the trip is for, but it's so important. If you didn't listen to the last episode, you do that because if you do not prep well, then this information is not going to work well, right?


Lesley Logan 1:34  

I absolutely get time off when I do work trips. I do not work every single day. I definitely only work you know my four to five days a week, but there's a lot to be doing to make sure that those, especially for those who are coming on a trip with me for work, that they get the best version of me. They get the version of me that I want them to experience, and the version of me that they want to experience, and and then they get everything that they want out of their trip as well. So make sure that you listen to the last episode to prep yourself to get out the door because this one is going to be how we land and how we get where we're going.


Lesley Logan 2:05  

So travel-size routine kind of a thing. Your routine does not have to disappear because your location and your time zone change, and that's super super important to me that you hear that. If you know anything about me, you know that I have a four-hour morning routine pretty much every day of the week. I walk my dogs. I get on my shake plate. I do Pilates, or I weight train, or I do a zone two. I get on my stretcher. You know, have a lovely full protein breakfast. I really get to enjoy some podcasts and catch up on life and text some friends and things like that. And then I got my workday. So obviously, four hours when I'm on the road is a lot because when you are traveling, some things just take longer to do. You have to get where you're going, whatever it is. So I don't get to have four hours, but I can have just like I have travel-size, you know, makeup stuff. I can have travel-size morning routine, and so I really try very hard to look at where I'm going, what I have planned for that day, and what in the morning routine can I do so that I feel the most like myself. What is going to have to change? What can't I do? But what can I do instead? And I prep them in, and that means waking up, going to bed the night before, so that I can do what I want to do in the morning. So routines do not have to change because your location change, and if you expect your home routine travel to go perfectly, you're kind of setting yourself up to fail. So I want you to really try not to over-schedule yourself prior to whatever you're doing on your trip.


Lesley Logan 3:33  

But if there's certain things that are super important to you, maybe you like to have maybe your skincare routine is too important to you, or your morning pages routine, or a meditation, then make sure you have those things set up. If you have to download them ahead of time, because you are going to be in a different country, and the VPN might not work. I really want to make sure you think these things through. So not all apps work the same when we're in different places, or there will be certain states I can't do certain things. Just make sure that whatever you are wanting to do, that it's ready for you. So if the internet's not working or time zone isn't working, that you have it ready to go, and it's pre-downloaded so you have to think about it because there's already so much that's outside of your control when you're traveling. You want to just pre-plan for that. What's going on? So smaller versions. If you normally meditate for 30 minutes, maybe you just say I'm gonna meditate for 10. If you end up being able to do 30, that's awesome. But it's thinking back to tiny habits and episodes we've done on habits, routines. Make it as small as possible so you can be successful on your trip and doesn't ruin the rest of your day.


Lesley Logan 4:28  

In Cambodia, my minimal, like my MVP, my minimal viable product, right, if you're thinking about business, depends on if it's a retreat day or not. If it's not a retreat day, then I actually can get about two and a half hours of my morning routine done. I can wake up. I run around the river. I can weight-lift. I can come back and do some Pilates mat on my patio, and then I can go get breakfast with Brad. So normally we don't have breakfast together, but for whatever reason, when he's halfway across the world, he wants breakfast. So I get to do that. So it's not four hours by myself, but it's a good amount of time and it's really beautiful. If it is a work retreat day, then I actually just get to do a walk around the river and a little bit of my journaling, and that's it. If I get a Pilates mat in by myself, great. Oftentimes, I just have to settle for doing some movement with them. The retreat is not that long; it's not that big of a deal, so I can do it, you know. They're there Sunday afternoon to Friday morning. I can absolutely get it in for sure on Sundays, and then on Friday, Saturday, and and Sunday after they leave. So it's really not that big of a deal, right? But I really try to think about what is the minimal thing that I need in my morning routine.


Lesley Logan 5:36  

The other thing is, if it's a retreat week day, then I absolutely get to do massages at night, which is so nice, but I can go to bed early, so I get to do some things that are still cup-filling while that's happening. So I just have to plan that out in advance, so I'm not expecting something more than I can give myself. So I hope that gives you an idea of what I normally do, what I do on a trip, and then the minimum thing I need to do is get a walk in by myself and see nature, get some vitamin D before I'm holding space for other people, and you want it to be so simple so that you actually do it. If you make it complicated, you won't do it. Just like anything, and you're oh, Lesley, I'll do it because I'm at home, I'll do it. Yeah, at home it's easy. Everything is at your fingertips and it's set up in the order that you do it. When you're on a trip, the bathroom's in a different spot, the bed's different, the pillow is different. There's so many different things that actually you don't even realize slow you down and take up time. So really, really important. And I also, when I'm in the trip, when I'm doing things, I try to make sure that movement and food don't have a lot of extra drama around it.


Lesley Logan 6:36  

You know, there are travel days that are transition days, and so I can't get well, just because it's Tuesday it's going to be like a Tuesday no it's not a normal Tuesday. So I really try not to have expectations on days that they can't even meet I think we have to really be mindful of if we're if we're putting pressure on ourselves for everything to be perfect and for everything to be able to be the same. No, when you are outside of the comforts of your home even if you're like, I have all my favorite snacks, and I have my favorite journal, and my favorite pen, and I have my favorite Tuesday outfit. Great. It's not your normal Tuesday. I want you to kind of take that expectation and pressure off, so that you can actually enjoy yourself and not have any drama around it. So I'm really intentional when I book hotels that I look at the pictures of the rooms and I look at the amenities. I make sure that they actually have a gym. And before, even if they say they have a gym, I want to see pictures of the gym. If it's a closet with a dumbbell, that is not a gym. I want to see pictures in of the gym, things like that. I really like to plan that out. That's not an option. There's no gyms. Any of the hotels? How big is the room? Can I get a bigger room for a few bucks more so that I have room to do Pilates on the floor. What can I do to support myself? I'm doing all of this. I'm really thinking these things through, and I want to know the plan going in. So, oh, Lesley, you know, you have the travel from Cambodia to Singapore to San Francisco to home. That's a lot of days. Actually, it's about three days of travel, and so it's okay. So in Singapore, there's a gym. In San Francisco, we can actually hit the gym on our way to the car. On the way drive home, we can do these things. We can do this hike. I really am taking it all in and seeing like what is actually possible and preparing my mind for that, so that I'm not surprised and going, oh God, here's another day I couldn't do my movement practice the way I want to, and it's just going to look different, right? And maybe it's all, all you get is 10 minutes, fine. But if you take the time to plan for it, you don't have any drama around it, and you don't have any frustrations that's taking up space in your mind. So you can just enjoy yourself.


Lesley Logan 8:33  

I really like to remind myself when I'm traveling that food is support. I am gluten-free. I do have other allergies and sensitivities, so I try to just think about okay, what can I possibly do? I'm a high protein, high fiber girly who loves a good fat, but when I'm on a trip, I can't be, oh my God, another day I didn't get my protein. If you live like that, you're gonna hate traveling. It's not gonna be fun. So I just really try to make the best decisions at each meal that I can, and trust that this is a travel day. It's not an every day. This is not how I live 350 days of the year. This is how I'm living today. What is the best decision that I can make that is going to support me and fuel me? Not oh, I'll have that one protein bar because it's so good. It tastes so good. Knowing that it's actually not going to sustain how full I am. It's just going to feel like a dessert. And then in a couple hours, I'm cranky and hangry and frustrated, so I really try to think of how can I live the best week that I have while I am on a trip, so I don't feel guilty and so I'm not judging myself, but also more importantly, so I have the energy to do the things that I want to do. It's not fun when you're on a wonderful trip and then you didn't feed yourself correctly, and then you lose an afternoon to angry, low sugar levels, things like that.


Lesley Logan 9:43  

So we've talked about supporting ourselves with and our expectations with movement and with food and with sleep. But another thing that's really important is boundaries. I don't travel often with other people. You know, I travel with my husband, but I'm traveling with a girlfriend or a colleague. I try really hard to prep them for the expectations that they can have of me on a trip. So my husband knows how I travel, how we live. He likes to stay up still late at night. I like to get up early, so we kind of can keep our similar routines, and we know what we can expect of each other on a trip. And if there are certain things that are important to us, like getting up early to see a sunrise or staying up late to see a show, we ask each other to participate in that. How we can, right? And then we give each other permission to do the things we want to do on our own. But sometimes when you're traveling with friends, they might not know how you travel. So I am a big proponent of having a pre-trip call of what can you expect? What do you like to do? On this recent trip, I did share hotel with a girlfriend, but normally work trips, no hotel room sharing. Nope, I will pay the extra money because, especially if it's a vacation, it's oh yeah, I want to spend time with that person and we're having a lot of fun. But if it's a work trip, you know, we're outpouring and giving a lot to the people that we're teaching and doing stuff for. So it's not that I don't want to have more time with them; it's that I want to have, I need to have time to recharge and refuel so I can have dinner with them. So it's important that you know that you can say no, you can rest. You can leave things early. You can skip the extra thing. The thing. So, keeping that in mind, right? I recently did a trip that was for work, and there was a lot of group dinners that were happening. And I actually said no to the group dinners because they happened later than I wanted. But I said yes to the happy hours before. So I was like, when I said, "Oh, you're going to be at the bar downstairs, the hotel room before you go, I will be there. I will meet you there. And then I skipped the actual group dinner so that I could go to dinner with my husband and then get to bed at a decent hour. He ended up going back out with them afterwards because after they came back from dinner, I would be in bed. He'd get a couple hours of work done, and then he and they'd be at the bar, so he got to live his best life as well. But I do think it's important that you know that you don't need to do all the things with all the people all the time, especially if it's going to make the next day feel like crap. So it's really, really important to know yourself. I love on our retreat trips. You know, the massages that night are not included in the retreat, so we always ask people at dinner after we've done the whole day. We're at the dinner. Okay, who wants a massage at the end of this dinner? And then that's when people can go. No, I'm going to bed. No, I'm doing this. Oh, I want to go here. And I love when people make a decision that's different than what we're suggesting because it shows me that they are protecting their boundaries, and it's so, so important that they do that. So I highly recommend that you consider that when you're on a trip. What are the non-negotiable boundaries that you need to keep, and how can you prep people ahead of time? I am someone who loves hanging out with people and am exhausted after doing so. So it's the AuDHD in me. It is the gregarious introvert. I do not get energy from people. I get drained from people. But I like people. I like spending time. I like getting to know them.


Lesley Logan 12:36  

So I'm very aware of looking at the calendar and seeing is there a way that I can have time by myself after the event or before the event so that I can say yes? And if the answer is no, then I really have to be thoughtful about okay, if I go do this, how is that negatively going to affect what I'm doing? And you know, is there any way that I can push that back, push this back, say yes to this? And if there's not, then I just tell people I would love to do that with you. I have to teach this workshop at the first workshop slot. It's just not going to happen, right? When I am working at a conference, I have a booth. That means the only time I have away from people is when I am in my hotel room. That is it. So I try extra hard to be thoughtful about when I say yes to any extra work that I do at those events, any extra meetups and things like that, because it sounds like you'll be able to do it, and it's hard. Another better example that you might be able to understand is this: I live in Las Vegas. There are people all the time. Oh my God, I'm going to be at this conference in Las Vegas. I'd love to see you, and it's right. And I'm going to tell you right now: when you get here and you get to your convention, you're not going to have the capacity to see me. You're just not. So as much as you want to see me and I want to see you, unless you're going to be at your convention a day early or stay a day, after during the convention, you are networking. You are at your convention. It's so hard for you to get away. And I'm not someone who's just driving to the Strip every day to hang out with people at convention sites. So you know, I'm I'm quite honest with people. Hey, I would love to see you. Why don't you look at your convention schedule and then send me when you think you can hang out? And nine times out of 10, it's oh my God, girl, there's no way. Right. There isn't, so it's it's not a big deal. Boundaries are not offensive things. They are people recognizing that they don't have extra to give, and I think that's so important for people to do. I think it is honorable, and I want all my friends to understand that, and I love that so much.


Lesley Logan 14:15  

Here's the thing: travel can stir up anxiety, right? I mean, you might even consider yourself an anxious person, but it can just it can just stir up anxiety because the food, sleep, time zones, the environment, the people, the sounds, the pace, all of it, the care. All of a sudden, your backpack feels heavier than normal. You find this thing that you want to buy, and you're yeah, I'll have room for that. Then you don't have room for that, and then you even just the so many things going on in the world that are outside of your control. You know, the number of times I've been traveling when world events have happened. I'm okay. Well, how's it going to affect me now? You know what the fuck. So I just want to say, when you're traveling with people, it's really important that you take zero things personal unless they are, and that means actually saying, "Hey, you know, is there anything I did yesterday because I felt maybe I might have offended you? Seemed a little short last night, or you just tired? If you even feel want feel the need to do that, if not, most people will tell you. I find most people will actually just tell you. So take nothing personally when you're traveling with people, and just know that everyone is a little bit more on edge, especially on the travel days when they arrive and when they're about to leave. So I don't take anything personally at those times, and I'm really thoughtful about before I ask someone to do anything extra on those days. Is it something that I think that they're capable of? Can they do it later? Can I have asked them earlier? Can I be asked earlier?


Lesley Logan 15:32  

And then make sure that you're doing things that you need to do to feel zenned out. You know, I really try while traveling to airports and Ubers and taxis, just to listen to music that really helps me out when I'm in the airport. If I'm feeling anxious, I do not listen to a podcast. I will turn it on to music that does calm me down. I will find places at the airport where the energy feels really good. Brad probably has thought I'm a crazy person. Sometimes I cannot sit here. This does not feel right. This is causing too much anxiety. And you know, I am a lounge girly, and I know that sounds pretentious. But the truth is, is every time I can get into a lounge before a flight, I don't care if it's 30 minutes or two hours, I always feel way more relaxed getting to the gate and getting on the plane than when I am not in that space. Because there's just so much frenetic energy. I pick up on everyone else's energy, and I try to have a barrier, but sometimes some people just get through, right?


Lesley Logan 16:22  

So I hope that gives you some permission to be yourself, permission to be a little anxious, and permission to be selfish about the things that you need on travel day, so that you don't feel that way and give yourself space and grace, and give other people that same thing too. So here's the deal: Cambodia every year teaches me a lot of things because we-it's a trip that we do every year, and it's almost the same travel days every year. It's like an easy experiment to compare myself this year to last year to the years before, and what it teaches me about preparation every year is just that because I have gotten into a routine with it, it doesn't take as much time, and so I'm really, really grateful for the years of preparation that I've done, and it just gets better and better. It also has taught me that the more flexible I can be, that doesn't mean lazy, that doesn't mean being passive. The more flexible I can be about things and about support and about what has to happen and what doesn't have to happen, even if it's scheduled, is great. So, for example, I was having a little anxiety about how we're going to get from Sacramento to the San Francisco airport. In theory, people do it all the time, but hiring a driver is $375, and they're probably going to expect a tip each way. Or I could take these trains, but I have to go on this train and this train, and then I have to take this Uber, and that's only $150. But my God, that's a whole day, right? All this different stuff, and then being flexible, and that my husband was able to find a friend who's driving that direction and can get us pretty close, and just trusting, okay, we don't have to do it exactly the way it's planned. We can actually go this route, and it'll be a little bit more of a adventure, right? Just trying to not expect the worst to happen, and truthfully roll with it a little bit, and just know I can do this. I kind of try to teach everything like the Amazing Race, and if I'm being filmed on camera, and this is a how do I win the program?


Lesley Logan 18:09  

I will also say when I'm on the retreat, there's a lot of leadership that I have to do, and that requires me to really make sure that my energy levels are filled. But there are days that I am not the leader, and to let other people do that has been a wonderful, wonderful thing that I've learned. And each year, I get better and better about that. And I really feel like each year I'm doing much better at caring for myself when I'm on the trip. What my workload is on the days that I'm not doing retreat versus the days I am on a retreat. I have cleared it more and more every year, and so what it looked like this particular Cambodia trip is the three to four days before the retreat, retreaters got there. I got to just focus on one project, and it wasn't a, I probably could have done it all in one day, but I really let myself sit and think about it and take care of it, so that I didn't feel rushed or pressured about it. And I will say, Brad has gotten so good at this as well because normally he's rushing around the three to four days before the retreat to get all this stuff done. And this particular year he was able to do extra preparation prior to us getting there, so he actually got to enjoy himself. And so for those of you who I don't really have time to prep, I'm telling you the more you prep, the more you can enjoy. And it's so hard. We don't always get to enjoy every single day we have at home. So my goodness, we should definitely enjoy the ones that we pay extra for to experience, right? And then because I did all that, I was able to really host some of the most amazing workshops I've ever hosted in my life. And we have these two workshops we do on the retreats, and I really love them because they can be emotional, they can be exciting, and people who've gone on these retreats have had incredible visions and then changed their lives because of it, and it's so beautiful to see what they do. And it's important that I can just hold space. And each year that I go, the more that I have done before I get there, the more I have cleared off of my brain, the more that I have prepped myself, the easier it is for me to hold space for those people to have the visions and the thoughts and and support them in that way, and not feel oh my God I have five other things to do as well. Oh, I feel they're scared. I'm scared. No, it's not about me, and I get to truly hold space. And for for each year's retreat to not be about me, I have to take care of myself, and I have to create space on the trip, and I have to fuel myself, and I have to overpack sometimes, and that's okay, too.


Lesley Logan 20:22  

So as I sit here, I'm not thinking that oh wow, three years ago I should have done a better job because I actually did a great job. But I am pleased that each year, after reflecting about what could I have done to make myself feel more supported, I have done those things and I have watched each trip support people in a better way, in a way that they need, you know. Maybe better is the wrong word, but the way that they need because each person is different. No one is linear. Just because I have a great schedule for the retreat doesn't mean that every single person who experiences it is the same. They're all different, so they all need a little bit different support. And because of all the preparation, I could really support all the different individuals for theirs. It's really great.


Lesley Logan 20:59  

So now we're in reentry, right, at home, and this is the part of the trip that most people do not plan for, do not prep for, and do not think about. And I used to have a life where, as soon as I landed, I had to get ready for the next thing. And sometimes it still happens. I'm going from one thing to the next thing, but I've really tried, and I'm really pleased to say that this year I have made sure that when we land, and I mean we are never offline anymore these days, so it's not like when you would go on a trip and you're in airplane mode for three weeks and you come back to 75,000 text messages. You know I'm not doing that, but I do not have expectations of myself for the first 48 hours to do anything differently. Like of course I can't wait to see my my step, I get my real morning routine back, and get my red lights back, and get my gym back, and all the things that are that are because I know them that are easy to do. I don't rush to do that. I actually just try to ease on in, and I do the best I can with unpacking, which is really hard.


Lesley Logan 21:56  

So as an ADHD person, I if you see the memes of the people who just like step over their open suitcase, I don't even open it. I'll just like put it in the room. And my housekeeper is so funny because like she doesn't even open it. But I've I try I've tried where we can't to just dump the suitcase out in the living room. I know that sounds really crazy, but I try to just dump it in the living room because then from there I put the dirty laundry and the dirty laundry and the clean clothes at least in my room so they can get organized away. And I put the gifts out on the table, so don't forget to give them to people. I try not to take the suitcase at all to my bedroom. That is my new way of doing it. And where I can, I set a reminder to order groceries from the moment we know about when we'll be back at our house. So obviously, with Cambodia, I land in San Francisco, so I don't want to order the groceries for when I land, because I'm not home, but I try to like have the grocery cart ready to go, so that when I land, I can go. Okay, I have a good idea of the when we'll be back at our house, so that I can pick the right window, so the groceries are there. Because you never have food when you get home, and you're oh my God, I just wish I had my favorite things. So I do like to plan that and set a reminder for myself about that, and then I try really hard not to work when I get home because I have dogs; they need to see me. I try to make sure that like no one is expecting me to work when I land. I really want to get a good full night's sleep and a full morning routine in before I have to look at work. So I really do try to put buffers in, and if if you can't, if you can't, that's okay.


Lesley Logan 23:21  

So my first 48 hours after Cambodia was actually getting back to Las Vegas, playing with my dogs, you know, getting my sleep in, actually trying to put the suitcase truly where it belongs. And then because when I travel, my friends and I don't always get to connect more than a text message here and there, especially when normally they're not in the retreat. I try to actually catch up with them and hear what their life has been, not share what my trip was, but hear what their life is going through, and then maybe highlights of my trip because oftentimes they're about to go somewhere. So I really try to make my reentry almost my first 40 hours almost like it's the weekend, even when it's not. But that requires the planning that I did in the episode before this. So if that's something that you want, if the future you wants to ease on it and have 48 hours of reentry. You got to plan for that when you're doing your prep. You're going to wish you did when you land. You're like, oh my God, why do I have a meeting in five hours? That was silly. I'm telling you, if you treat yourself like you're 20, you're going to be tired. I am not 20. When I was 20, when I was 30, there's a lot of things I could do. Now those things do not exist. I have to really give myself the space I can, and that sometimes means delegation. That sometimes means deleting. That sometimes means telling people no to things because yes, could we in theory find a Tetris spot for that piece? Yes, is it the best idea for what pieces are coming up? No. Sometimes you have to say no to things, even though it looks like there's space, because you might be affecting a yes that could fit in that space. What if there's an adventure to be had? What if there was a way that I could have flown into San Francisco and had some other important meetings? So I really try to create space so that if something epic like Oprah epic could happen, I could say yes to that, right? As opposed to moving things around.


Lesley Logan 24:59  

So hopefully this gives you some insight into how I do things. Am I perfect at it? No. Do I get better every time? Yes, and that is always the goal. We do not do things perfectly. We do things with as much information as we can, treating our future self the way we wish that they were treated by others, and we take pressure off of ourselves to do things as if we have professional helpers. You know we don't always have that. So you know each trip, if you do some reflection about oh I wish I'd packed that. Oh no, nice if I have that. Great, change your list while you're thinking that., change it, and each trip you do is going to be more and more fun to the point that traveling doesn't have to be a hassle, even if it feels like it is. Because some trips are not exciting, some trips are not ones you want to do, some trips you're doing for other people and not for yourself, but with all this stuff, even those trips can be sustaining, fulfilling, and have the little moments of enjoyable. So I would love to know which of these things helped you, which of these things you're wanting to implement, which of these things you want to tack onto. Or I do that, but I do it this way. Share it with me. Send it to the beitpod.com/questions. If you have a topic you want to hear how I handle it, how I do it, what a day in the life looks like. I want to share that with you. You know, some people oh, some people ask personal questions. Y'all, I'm online. Obviously, it's how I make a living. So if there's things you're wanting to know and I can share them with you, I will. So ask, ask, so I can. All right, thank you so much. Share this with a friend who's got a trip that's coming up who needs to hear it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.


Lesley Logan 26:23  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read in another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.


Brad Crowell 27:06  

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Lesley Logan 27:11  

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Brad Crowell 27:16  

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Lesley Logan 27:23  

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Brad Crowell 27:26  

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