Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell revisit their conversation with Mary and Kate Swick, hosts of Mom and Me Astrology and experts in blending traditional and modern astrological insights. Together, they uncover astrology’s power to validate experiences and guide personal growth. Learn how Pluto’s cycles and Mercury retrogrades can reframe obstacles, foster clarity, and inspire adaptability in life’s transitions.

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In this episode you will learn about:

Why Pluto’s long-term cycles highlight opportunities for transformation.
How Mercury's retrograde offers a chance to rethink, revise, and refocus.
Why astrology validates emotions and offers context for life’s challenges.
Why understanding your astrological chart provides insight into your strengths.
How being curious about astrological influences can foster adaptability.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00

First of all, I was born under a Mercury in retrograde, so they don't actually affect me as much. They kind of feel comfortable, but retrograde, R-E, they say, anything you can redo, redefine, recreate, redecorate, put a re in front of it. And so to go back, don't blame astrology, but understand what's going on, and then you can work with it.

Lesley Logan 0:18

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:57

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the validating convo I had with Mary and Kate Swick in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you need to make time for that episode and maybe listen to it twice. I think Brad listened to it three times.

Brad Crowell 0:57

Two and a half times.

Lesley Logan 1:02

Two and a half times. So holy freaking moly, there's a lot of information. Grab your notebook, maybe even look at the transcript of it, because you can go to your sun sign, or Mary and Kate often talk about your rising sign, and you can just like, copy and paste what they're saying, because they gave a lot of information. But before we get into that, today is January 2nd 2025 and it's National Personal Trainer Day. And because I'm a Pilates instructor, I think we just need a Pilates instructor, yoga instructor. It's your national whoever is (inaudible)

Brad Crowell 1:49

We're gonna, we're gonna adjust it from personal trainer to fitness trainer.

Lesley Logan 1:53

Yeah, whoever is your personal person taking care of you, and OPC can be that person for you. So we're gonna celebrate me. To be honest, I think they really phoned it in when they came up with holidays for January 2nd.

Brad Crowell 2:07

Yeah, right.

Lesley Logan 2:08

Really went through, and this is the best one that didn't have, like, motivate yourself, go do the thing, like, that language is no longer allowed here. So National Personal Trainer Day is an annual day of observance on January 2nd when many people start working toward their new year fitness resolutions. Just so you know, we are not saying that you need to do that. Personal Trainers guide, motivate, and train you to exercise correctly. Yes they do.

Brad Crowell 2:30

Yes they do.

Lesley Logan 2:30

Yes they do. Without them, many injuries can happen due to bad former incorrect use of the equipment. So they are vital, often overlooked part of society. Personal Trainers should get the credit they deserve for the great work that they do. Yes.

Brad Crowell 2:41

Yes, they should.

Lesley Logan 2:42

I should. And also, at OPC, we don't do, like, one-on-one stuff anymore. We do provide feedback on your form just by submitting (inaudible)

Brad Crowell 2:51

Did we ever?

Lesley Logan 2:52

No, we never did. But I did. I used to.

Brad Crowell 2:55

Yeah, okay, but you aren't OPC.

Lesley Logan 2:58

That's true. I am not OPC. That's true.

Brad Crowell 3:02

Hey.

Lesley Logan 3:02

Hey.

Brad Crowell 3:02

Congrats.

Lesley Logan 3:03

Congratulations to me. Okay, so we're not even home yet, so just so you know, we're.

Brad Crowell 3:09

We're a solid week away from being home.

Lesley Logan 3:11

We're like definitely somewhere in the Panhandle right now but we're gonna come home at some point, and then we're gonna head to Cambodia.

Brad Crowell 3:11

I think we're at Pensacola, probably on the way to New Orleans.

Lesley Logan 3:21

We're definitely doing a class in Pensacola, and tomorrow is a class in New Orleans. Yes. New Orleans is sold out, so don't even try. At this point.

Brad Crowell 3:29

Pensacola, I think, has a couple left in the class.

Lesley Logan 3:32

At the time we're recording this, the class had some spots. Austin has some spots in the workshops. Dallas has some spots in the workshops, and Lubbock has some spots in the workshops, but that's it, so and that's also.

Brad Crowell 3:43

How about Phoenix?

Lesley Logan 3:44

Phoenix, at this point, has three spots left in the workshops, but you guys, we are 34 days away from those places, so they could be sold out by the time you're hearing that. It's very true, but just reach out, because you never know. You know.

Brad Crowell 3:56

Never know. Go to opc.me/tour come check it out.

Lesley Logan 3:59

So when we come back, we're going to Cambodia in February, and we have announced, it says we've just announced October.

Brad Crowell 4:07

When we're listening to this. No, the announcement for October hasn't come up just yet, but it will be, should probably be on the website, y'all. But basically, we're going to be putting out an offer to the people on the waitlist. So go to lesleylogan.co/retreats plural, retreats plural, and add yourself to the waitlist so you can get the special offer. Well, it's our early bird special. So if you want to check out what's going to happen in October, the dates are the 12th through the 17th, 12th to the 18th, 13th through the 18th, something like that middle of October of this year, 2025. What? We're going to be making that big announcement, only the people on the waitlist. So if you're on social, we won't be talking about it.

Lesley Logan 4:46

Only people on the waitlist will get that early bird discount and get the invite. And last October, it sold out from the waitlist. So, just so you know.

Brad Crowell 4:55

We're the biggest group we ever took, and we literally had to bump people to February because it just went immediately. And that was really exciting and incredible. So if you are thinking about it at all, make sure you check out those dates and come join us. And as you all heard us talk about back in November, we drove to Los Angeles. Lesley did this incredible week of prepping for the guillotine photo shoot.

Lesley Logan 5:16

1100 pictures.

Brad Crowell 5:17

Yeah, we did 1100 photos for the new, upcoming flash cards accessories deck.

Lesley Logan 5:22

I've been going through on the tour, I'm sure at some point by now, when this comes out, I will have sat down and picked the pictures for this deck, and I am supposed to have been done writing by now. So.

Brad Crowell 5:33

Yeah, we'll see.

Lesley Logan 5:34

We're gonna project all that, because we're trying to actually go on presale earlier than we usually do. Usually we go on presale in May or June, and we're trying to hit that April, March.

Brad Crowell 5:43

And here's why we're trying to avoid hurricane season in Florida.

Lesley Logan 5:46

Yeah, you know these are things you have to think about.

Brad Crowell 5:48

When they ship.

Lesley Logan 5:49

Yeah, when you're a business owner, you have to think about things you never thought about.

Brad Crowell 5:52

Never thought about.

Lesley Logan 5:53

Before. So you need to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist to get on the waitlist, because only those people on the waitlist get the presale price. And the presale price is the best price that deck will ever have, ever, ever, ever.

Brad Crowell 6:06

If you are feeling stuck in your Pilates business, or you're really worried about this year, my name is Brad. I talk a lot about, how do you grow a small business, especially a fitness business, especially a Pilates business. So if any of that makes any sense to you, if you're like, Okay, it's January. I need to capitalize on this wave of people wanting to get back into the studio, but I'm not quite sure how to connect with those people. You don't know how to get new clients, or you're worried about the money. Come join me for a free webinar when we get back home the following week, I'm going to be hosting a free webinar called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator, and in that webinar, I'm going to be revealing three massive secrets that Lesley and I have put together after coaching more than 2500 businesses over the last seven years. Because this year, this January, right now, it is Agency's seventh year. Holy cow. That is unbelievable. I can't believe that.

Lesley Logan 6:57

It's insane.

Brad Crowell 6:58

Yeah, we kicked it off in 2018 so that's amazing. Anyway, go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator, and join me for the free webinar. And then finally.

Lesley Logan 7:09

Okay, so you guys are first.

Brad Crowell 7:11

Drum roll please.

Lesley Logan 7:17

We are going to do a spring training OPC, and it's going to be online. It's going to be something you can do live with us. There'll be some replay action.

Brad Crowell 7:26

This is like, going to be a big event. This isn't going to be like, oh, join us for a one hour workshop. No, this is like.

Lesley Logan 7:31

No, it's going to be a week long event. Something similar to what you used to do four years ago. But we're going to include all the OPC teachers multiple different pieces of equipment. So no matter what you have access to, there's going to be part of this event that is for you.

Brad Crowell 7:42

Yeah, no summer camp this year. Okay, we're going to do the spring training instead of the summer camp.

Lesley Logan 7:46

You don't know why. If you were listening to the pod, we kept confusing summer camp and summer tour, and we decided that we need to change the season. And I was born and raised in a baseball family. Brad was raised in a football family, but you may not know my grandfather was actually a professional baseball player, and so spring training.

Brad Crowell 8:04

He played for the Philadelphia Eagles, right?

Lesley Logan 8:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brad Crowell 8:10

Just hit my head with guitar.

Lesley Logan 8:14

And the he meaning Brad, no, my grandfather played for the St. Louis Cardinals he was the catcher. So we're gonna do spring training. It's gonna be end of April into May, and I want you to get on the waitlist, because something special will happen for the people on the waitlist. We'll make sure we always put things special on waitlists. You always just want to be on waitlist.

Brad Crowell 8:30

Just be on the waitlist.

Lesley Logan 8:31

And we don't bug you. We just remind you what's coming out once a month, so you don't forget about it. So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events.

Brad Crowell 8:39

Yeah, by the way, I just want to say the waitlist is different from our newsletter list. So if you get our weekly newsletters. That's great, different from the waitlist where we specifically talk about the events that you may have been wanting.

Lesley Logan 8:50

Yeah, if you're like, interested in what our spring training is going to be, then you're going to want to be on the waitlist, because we won't talk about it on the newsletter until whatever special was on the waitlist is over.

Brad Crowell 8:59

Yeah, and I'm not encouraging you to do this, but if you're like, oh my God, you send me a lot of emails, you don't need to be on the newsletter list, but you can still be on the waitlist. Possible.

Lesley Logan 9:08

I mean, I write good emails. I'm just gonna say it.

Brad Crowell 9:10

You do.

Lesley Logan 9:10

They all come from me, and they're not chatGPT, we're not even using my bot to write them. So, you know.

Brad Crowell 9:14

It's true. It's true. opc.me/events, plural, opc.me/events, get yourself on the waitlist, and we'll be letting you know about spring training.

Lesley Logan 9:23

Also that waitlist. Also let you know about all OPC events that includes the course. So there's good stuff on that.

Brad Crowell 9:29

Yep, yep. Love it. All right.

Lesley Logan 9:31

Before we talk about Mary and Kate, we have a lot to get into, because we do have an audience question.

Brad Crowell 9:35

Yes, we do. Okay. Lisa Hansen 6014 from YouTube says hey, in the shoulder bridge exercise, difference in pointing and flexing.

Lesley Logan 9:45

Okay.

Brad Crowell 9:45

I don't even know (inaudible) to myself.

Lesley Logan 9:48

So, don't worry, means nothing to a lot of people. So in the shoulder exercise on the mat, you actually point the foot up when you kick the leg up.

Brad Crowell 9:56

Oh, I know exactly.

Lesley Logan 9:57

Yes, I know you do.

Brad Crowell 9:58

But you go up pointed and down flex?

Lesley Logan 10:00

Yeah, do you remember why?

Brad Crowell 10:02

Oh snap. Uh, well, probably about this stretch that creates when you do it.

Lesley Logan 10:06

Great job.

Brad Crowell 10:07

Hey, nailed it.

Lesley Logan 10:08

So, okay, so, so in Pilates.

Brad Crowell 10:11

Sorry, Lisa.

Lesley Logan 10:11

Yeah. So Lisa asked this, and also her further questions that came from this was like, well, my foot cramps when I point it. So, yeah, here's the deal, in Pilates, when you point it is actually to help you get length in the front of your leg, because the hip flexor is going to want to try to jump in there. And when you flex, is to help you have more access on the way down, to help people have more access to the hamstring and glute, allows you to push into something when you flex with the roll up and you push your heels down, it gets you more access to those hamstrings and glutes. Why? Because you need them to turn on so you don't overuse your hip flexors.

Brad Crowell 10:42

Yeah, so that's actually why.

Lesley Logan 10:44

Yeah, in sidekicks, when you turn the leg out and you point it up, you flex it down. Why do that? You point it up, so your hip flexor doesn't try to lift the leg, and you flex it down so you can get more gluten hamstring. So pointing and flexing in Pilates is not choreography. It is about the connection. Now, when you're new to exercises and Pilates, it will feel like you're learning choreography. That's fine. But then there is a point to it.

Brad Crowell 11:07

There is a method to do with the madness.

Lesley Logan 11:09

Yes, and then, just to follow up, if you are someone who's foot or feet cramp when you're pointing them, it tells me you are over using your foot, and the point and flex is happening from the ankle down and not from the butt down. And so what I would just say is.

Brad Crowell 11:25

Say that one more time.

Lesley Logan 11:26

When you point your foot if it's cramping, there's a lot of reasons why muscles cramp. You could be lacking magnesium, electrolyte. You could be dehydrated, the muscles could be tired. But specifically in Pilates, if a foot is cramping when it's pointed in shoulder ridge, for example, she's got one foot on the ground, not cramping, one foot and they are cramping. It tells me that she's over using the foot.

Brad Crowell 11:50

Okay, that's what I just wanted you to say one more time. So yeah, she's doing what?

Lesley Logan 11:54

Over-using the foot muscle. She's working from the ankle down.

Brad Crowell 11:57

Yeah, that's what I was unclear of.

Lesley Logan 11:58

You need to, so your foot is not its own thing. Your foot is part of your butt. So you want to think about that point and flex going from up and down the chain up and down the whole leg. It's not choreography. It's part of like your whole body. And so when you're new, it's going to be just the ankle, but as you advance and the more she uses her butt, the lesser foot will cramp. There's an exercise on the Cadillac called shoulder roll down. If your feet cramp in that exercise, 100% you're not using your butt. 100% of the time when you access your ass, your feet stop cramping.

Brad Crowell 12:06

And you're fast.

Lesley Logan 12:35

Yes.

Brad Crowell 12:35

Oh yeah. Well, great answer.

Lesley Logan 12:38

And also, Lisa became an OPC member because of all these questions.

Brad Crowell 12:42

Hey, Lisa, welcome to the club.

Lesley Logan 12:43

And now I asked her, I said, send me a video of you doing this exercise so I could actually see what's going on. So if you would like me to see how you point and flex your foot and see if you're using your butt or you're just overusing your foot, opc.me/40

Brad Crowell 12:43

Yeah, go check it out. Opc.me/40, and come join the amazing family, the community that we got going on there. Okay, so this is gonna be super juicy. Make sure you stick around. We're about to talk about Mary and Kate Swick.

Lesley Logan 13:09

And ourselves.

Brad Crowell 13:10

And they actually read our charts, and we're gonna talk about that too. So we'll be right back.

Brad Crowell 13:16

Welcome back all right. Now let's talk about Mary and Kate Swick. Kate and Mary Swick are the hosts of Mom, Me and Astrology, where they bring together traditional and modern astrological insights. Kate, an Aquarius, and lifelong student of astrology, combines her studies in modern astrology with a background in energy work and intuitive practices, offering fresh perspectives on innovation, growth and self discovery. Side note, she's also went to school for psychology, worked in corporate for a long time, running some spas and stuff. So she's got a lot of interaction with a lot of people, but she grew up with Mary, a Scorpio, brings over 35 years of experience in astrology, making her a trusted guide for navigating major life shifts. Together, they provide guidance on navigating life shifts and understanding planetary influences. Also not mentioned here is that Mary's husband, Kate's father, also worked as an astrologist as well. So Kate was like, around, around this whole world.

Lesley Logan 14:12

Before the internet and email, like someone would call and Mary would be out, and there's no answering machines, right? So Kate's like, writing down, okay, yes, the North Node thing you said came true.

Brad Crowell 14:23

Yeah, the second month, moon's sun did a back flip. And, yeah, I don't know anything about things clearly, Kate, obviously, grew up with all of this and.

Lesley Logan 14:32

If any of the things sounded overwhelming, what I have decided since I've met them and we've known them now three years, maybe four years, is that just the more you listen to the terms, the less, the more familiar they become, the less it's like learning a new language. The less overwhelming it is, and the more you study it in yourself, the easier it is for you to understand other things. And I have to be honest, like, the more chaotic the world is, the more I'm like, hold on, what's going on in the moons, let me see, because.

Brad Crowell 15:02

I haven't wrapped my head around houses yet, but I've got, like, sun, moon, I'm starting to understand that. But then there's, like, the planets and the degrees. I don't know anything about that.

Lesley Logan 15:11

I'm excited because I picked up a journal for this year. And every day, there's a way for me to put an entry. It tells me what's going on with the moons, and it tells me what's going on with like, different things, and it's a way for me to practice you have to look at your own chart, and I had stickers to put what things are in which house and what degree. And so I feel like just every day I get to spend a little time journaling in this area. Again, what's gonna go to what I loved astrology is what Mary said. Astrology is very validating. It's not as much predictive as it is a green or yellow light saying go or slow down or pause. And you can use it as a valuable tool to help you see things you might not have noticed about yourself, or some things like, why do I do that? Like, why am I doing that? Sometimes I find myself going, why do I do that? And then I hear from my chart, like, this is the way you do that, you're like, oh, so that's just like, kind of who I am. So I just need to be aware that that's something that I tend to do, and something else that'll come up. We had them read my chart and your chart, and something that came up is that I'm someone who requires a lot of downtime. And I have noticed in the last year, I require a lot of downtime, like I just do after tours, after things like, I just, I need to lay down on the ground. And I used to think, oh, is there something wrong with my health or something wrong I need? And so going back to the validation of it, no. In the chart that I have, it literally says lay the fuck down, take time for yourself. So I really like that. And she's like, it's like having a friend who can give you an opinion or show you something that to you that you didn't see yourself. And I also think that's really cool. We had them read our chart. And there's a lot of things that are like moving around, that are going on. And every time I show someone my chart, who knows astrology, the things they go, Oh, wow, you need to stock up on your learning. You've got a lot going on over here. And I'm like, what is it? What do I need to learn? But it's not predictive, right? So we can't tell them what I need to learn. But I really enjoyed, in summary, what I, we are in a transition of something going on in our business right now. And what was validating about this is because we're at the end of the seven years, and so there are a lot of things transitioning, because that's how things are working in my chart is a seven year change, and what I need to be doing, what I need to be focusing on. And some things have already, the energy's already started in there. And I was like, oh, this is really validating. And then there was some things that she said. Was like, hey, you go look out for this. Not a beware, but a be aware. And I was just like, oh, that is really good information. The other thing that I'm glad that they said is you might want to not just rethink collaborations, but also check in with new partnerships. Check out new things. There might be someone who is famous or doing this x thing that you can actually like work with. And also there's just some really good stuff, you guys. It basically just says, I'm coming into like, the more authentic I can be, the better it is going to be for me, the more that I can manifest, the better that's going to be for me. And so what was so cool about that is, I've been thinking I need to be spending more time manifesting what I actually want, because that's just something I'm being called to do, and to hear in my chart that it's like, yeah, you're in a manifestation place. Go do that. It really helps put the green light on something I'm intrigued by. And I find that to be really cool, because it doesn't feel like this random hobby or this distraction. It feels like a direction. I have a lot of new beginnings coming up. Is that what? That's what they said. Did you hear that in my chart?

Brad Crowell 18:29

I mean, you and me both. I'll get into that in just a minute. Okay, first off, one move Brad over here, this has always been interesting to me. Intriguing to me after having my chart read, I've met Kate multiple times, and her partner, Mike, but I have not met Mary. I've not met mom in person, I don't believe, but I have listened to them for a long time.

Lesley Logan 18:50

I know you, you download their podcast. You listen to it.

Brad Crowell 18:52

I do. I actually listen to their pod. And the reason is because, first off, I know you're very interested in it, and I just wanted to kind of start to wrap my head around the language of it, and kind of it, and kind of, yeah, I don't really understand it all, all the time, but it's fun. They're very sweet and they're it's easy to listen to. It's not that long, you know, it's pretty informative. It's also not doom and gloom. I don't know. I always imagine movies from the 90s where someone, like, bases their entire life off of, like, a one paragraph astrological reading in the local newspapers some bullshit, and then they go change their world for the better or the worse. That's kind of just the understanding I had of astrology, but listening to them talk about it, it's really kind of changed my understanding of it, so in a good way. So anyway, we did decide to do our charts with them, and that was also incredibly revealing to me, since I know me better than anybody, right? But before I get into my chart, Kate actually said, hey, the context here not to blame astrology, but just to understand. She explained that when you go through hard things, you can say, oh, here comes Pluto again, rearing its ugly head, right? And not in a sense of you have no agency, but it gives it sheds clarity onto things that might be happening in your life, or why you might be responding in a specific way, and you might be looking at yourself going, why did I do that? And that doesn't mean that you're off the hook. There's blame astrology. That's not what that is, but it does give you visibility into certain things. So it may be also a reminder that some of these things are temporary, because things are shifting and changing.

Lesley Logan 20:19

Yeah, some planets move really fast. Some move really slow. And another example, because some people might not really be familiar with Pluto, although, my God, I've been so fucking aware of Pluto and Aquarius, but I'm very involved. So a lot of people like to blame Mercury in retrograde. It happens.

Brad Crowell 20:35

Mercury's in retrograde. I've heart that a billion times.

Lesley Logan 20:37

It happens multiple times a year, which is why you hear it a billion times. And the thing that I love from Mary and Kate is that they've actually really helped me re evaluate what mercury in retrograde is. First of all, I was born under a Mercury in retrograde, so they don't actually affect me as much. They kind of feel comfortable, but retrograde, R-E, they say anything you can redo, redefine, recreate, redecorate, put a re in front of it. And so to go back, don't blame astrology, but understand what's going on and then you can work with it, which is kind of cool, because, like, you said, no agency can go, okay, hold on, we are in a retrograde. So yesterday, I was trying to move these files. I tried two times it didn't freaking work. And I could have gotten mad or upset, because, like, I get frustrated when technology doesn't work for me, when it worked, like, literally an hour ago, and I was just like, you know what? Yeah, I'm just like, You know what, it's retrograde. I'm just gonna leave that there. I texted the team. I'm like, do you see these files? Because I tried two times and I don't see them there, but maybe I can't see them, and they're like, we don't have them. And I was like, we have to redo it tomorrow. I'm not gonna get angry about I'm just gonna redo it tomorrow. And I was like, ooh, retrograde.

Brad Crowell 21:39

Yeah, Astrology can validate what you're feeling. We didn't talk about Pluto yet, but we're gonna get into that in just a minute. So Kate also said, astrology is not there to tell you that you're being punished. That's not the goal of it. It's, you know, it can help validate what you're feeling. It doesn't take away the emotion of what you're going through, but it can provide a sense of purpose. You know, what you're going through and dealing with is exactly what you are supposed to be dealing with. She said, It's all part a much larger plan and a much larger cycle, right? For example, we were talking about Pluto, we were talking about mercury, but we weren't comparing it to Pluto just yet. Mercury in retrograde happens three times a year. Pluto, it's like a 20-year cycle, right? And so what was really interesting is when they read my chart, and it was the two of them talking back and forth to each other for about 30 minutes.

Lesley Logan 22:26

Okay, I'm so curious, what happened to it 22? I really wanted to go back and go because (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 22:31

I'll tell you what happened, in fact. So here's what's crazy. They basically said hey, Brad, and this was Mary, mom. She said, to be honest, I wish you were here in front of me so that we could meet you face to face, because you have a very intriguing chart. She said, I don't think I've read this many, very many charts over my career, 35 years doing this, very many charts where there were three moons, there are three planets at a zero degree, zero degrees. Now that doesn't mean anything to me. I have no idea what that actually means, but they were very intrigued by this, because I was born under a new moon on a specific day in a specific place, and whatever the degrees of all the planets (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 23:07

And you have three planets at zero, which means it's like a new beginning. But also you could kind of be either the old other sign, or this sign.

Brad Crowell 23:14

I could be a chameleon.

Lesley Logan 23:15

Yes, it's really quite crazy. They also said that when you go to a new place, you don't stand out as a tourist. You kind of just are that. And it was, I'm like, yeah.

Brad Crowell 23:23

Are you going to let me talk about how excited I am about the chart, yeah. So, all right, so, so basically, they began to describe me, and Mary doesn't know me. Kate knows me. She actually was using some references of my life, of our life, that she's aware of, but Mary doesn't know those references. Doesn't know me. And yet she was looking at when I was born and where I was born, and she was describing why I did things I did in high school, which was fascinating to me, because she talked about, you were talking about being a chameleon. When I was in high school, I used to literally blend into all the different crowds. I hated the Goths versus the preps versus the jocks. I just thought it was the stupidest thing. So I would wear different clothes every single day, as if I was part of a different clique, a different crew, and I had friends in all these different clubs, or what a social hierarchies, or whatever the it was high school. And for me, I did it in a cynical way, because I thought it was bullshit. So I was like, Well, I'm gonna break the rules and I'm gonna be part of everything. But how funny to hear them talk about how I can do that kind of a thing. And I was doing that when I was, like, 16. It was really interesting to hear them talk about how I'm probably very intrigued about travel and about understanding the world and about different cultures and all that stuff. And that could not be more spot on. That is literally my driving purpose in literally life. I always say travel is my drug of choice.

Brad Crowell 23:24

Yeah, yeah. And we and they also said next year is a lot of travel, and it freaking does. You were trying to squeeze a (inaudible) trip in a really crazy time, and I'm like, can we squeeze it into this quarter? Can we do that?

Brad Crowell 24:59

I have more coming that she doesn't know about.

Lesley Logan 25:00

I know, but I also really loved that they brought up. So something about Brad. He's Oh, yeah, let's just go. Let's go to this thing. And I'm like, Okay, I'll go. And then he's like, oh, you know, while we're over here, let's go to this thing. And I'm like, that was not on the plan. And we gotta drop off these three things if we're 12 o'clock at the FedEx and it's, what are you talking about? I thought we were just going to get lunch, and now you're adding three things. And they freaking brought that up in the chart. I swear to God. I mean, I know it's not psychic, but it's definitely validating. And again, yes, Kate has met you several times. We've hung out, we've gone to dinner, but not like, we're like, every quarter.

Lesley Logan 25:01

No, maybe once a year over the past three or four years.

Lesley Logan 25:39

Yeah, we have to send Mary a picture of you like I think she (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 25:43

I feel it. I'm sure Kate pulled up a photo us. It was really just interesting. I lean towards an addictive personality, where, when I commit to something, I go 1000% in on that thing. I love to travel. I'm really good at showing a front and not sharing what's behind, right? So that's also the way I always thought about it is, that's how I was raised. No one ever sees what's actually going on behind the curtain. Maybe that's also just how I am. My interest in language education, my inclination towards technical stuff, you know, just fascinating to me. And then what we never actually circle back around to, and I want to finish with here before we move on, is Pluto. They said that somehow, I don't really understand it, but Pluto is affecting 10 of the planets in my chart, and that cycle, that 20-year cycle, is concluding right now, and next year is going to be a very interesting transitional time for me.

Lesley Logan 26:40

I have to look at your chart. It sounds like maybe a 10-year plan must have been like, in Capricorn or something like that.

Brad Crowell 26:44

I have a Capricorn rising. And I never even knew that. I was like, I don't know.

Lesley Logan 26:48

Yeah, no, you have Capricorn rising. I have Gemini rising. We gotta look at what your moon is. But, yeah.

Brad Crowell 26:52

This was really interesting that they were talking about some of the things that they were forecasting for me for next year during this transition period. I've already been doing them literally this past year. I can't remember the specifics now, but there was like, three or four things where I was like, oh, that's already started. I've already started to shift out of some of the roles that I've held in the company for a really long time. I've already started to make decisions on what I want to be doing in the company. And this kind of started six, eight months ago. So it's just funny that there's stuff going on in my world that they had no idea yet they were talking about it as if they did.

Lesley Logan 27:26

They gave me some specific dates. I'm not gonna lie. I'm aiming for one of those to be the accessories launch card date, because, like, this is a great day to launch something. I think so too. Obviously, this is not a commercial for Mary and Kate, but what I hope is it's an awareness of take a look at these things, because it can feel like your world is uncertain and chaotic, and maybe it is chaotic.

Brad Crowell 27:46

I mean, especially politically now. When the day this comes out, we're 18 days away from a transition in the president's office. Oh, and that's, you know, a lot of uncertainty starting at the end of this month.

Lesley Logan 27:56

It's weighing on me. Well, also, like, I had a call today with someone I was like, so do we think that there's going to be a war where we're going at that time, because this is the weirdest thing, that because we travel so much for work, we have to pay attention politically, what's happening in the world like it, it affects us on an actual economical level, like it affects us on our work and affects the safety wise. And she said, well, then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I said okay, we're gonna act as a be it until you see it. Here we go. You know. And so having an understanding of this, again, it's not a psychic thing. It can actually just validate. Oh, I do feel like everything is in transition right now, and I have all this stuff happening in my houses. So it is. So it makes you feel to me less crazy, and oh, I'm on the right path, or I can work with this. And so at the very least, you should listen to their podcast. And the episode, we had to talk about Pluto. We went through every single because we're talking to you like, as if you listen to it. We went through every single sun sign, which is a sign that you are born like the birth date, the one that like you.

Brad Crowell 28:53

The one that you probably know.

Lesley Logan 28:54

You probably know (inaudible) because it's on the magazines and everything. Oh, this your sun sign.

Brad Crowell 28:58

Cancer, Capricorn, Aquarious.

Lesley Logan 28:59

Yeah, based on your birth date. So you don't have to know the time or location you're born. You can just know your sun sign. We did that for both Pluto and Uranus. So I would just say, like, dabble in it. You can at least listen to the podcast, their podcast, and start to.

Brad Crowell 29:15

Yeah, Mom and Me Astrology.

Lesley Logan 29:16

Yeah, yeah. Because just to finish Brad's little point here, it's all part of a much bigger and larger cycle and plan.

Brad Crowell 29:23

Yeah, stick around, because we're gonna get (inaudible) be it, if we certainly do, we're gonna get into those, Be It Action Items that they laid out for us on the pod. We will be right back.

Brad Crowell 29:33

All right. Welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Mary and Kate Swick? I'm gonna jump in first here. I am cancer sun sign. So I was born under that cancer. Will be handed power, but may feel uncomfortable managing it or forming alliances. Cancer may hold taboo or secrets needed to navigate private matters carefully, interesting, because what we see happening next year is growth with the company and my entire shift, my entire goal, has been for us to grow OPC and begin to rub elbows with some other companies so that we can partner with them for marketing efforts and growth efforts and collaboration and all this stuff, but not on a local level, now on a national level, and eventually on an international level, would be our grandiose goal. So I just find it really interesting that may put me in an uncomfortable situation which I get that I could see how that I could be in a room with people who are running a conglomerate, and it might make me feel like imposter syndrome, or whatever it might be.

Lesley Logan 30:41

And knowing that is helpful, because then you go, Okay, I'm gonna feel this way, but I'm supposed to be here. I've been handed this power, and so I'm gonna be uncomfortable. It doesn't mean I can't do use this to my advantage.

Brad Crowell 30:51

Well actually, so the cancers may hold taboo or secrets really well when navigating private matters. So you know, if you're maybe a therapist, or you've got someone going through something, what I find really interesting is the environments that I came from were prone to secrecy, because there was a lot of controversy in the work environment that I used to work in, right? And I already feel like prepared for this kind of a thing. There's definitely intimacy being heightened coming up, and then cancers are encouraged to prioritize therapeutic services because of it. And there's a couple of action steps here. It's time to reflect on my needs in relationships, and not just intimate relationships, but just relationships in general, and then also explore what fulfills me emotionally and physically. Therapeutic services will help me process and escape into healing activities like mental health walks or yoga, which is interesting because I I totally was driven to that before, when my life was incredibly stressful 10 years ago. I'm excited to see some of that stuff coming back around, and I'm excited to embrace it so very interesting.

Lesley Logan 31:56

And if you are not a Cancer or an Aquarius, because I'm going to go into mine and you're like, but I'm another sign, we talked about it in the other episode.

Brad Crowell 32:04

We did talk about it.

Lesley Logan 32:04

But also, I think what's really cool over the next year and years, you're gonna hear Brad and I talk about some things, and I think it's going to reveal itself how these things are evolving in our lives, because we're pretty open with you guys about what's going on with our lives and what's going on business, what we're going through. And so, for example, I'm an Aquarius, like Kate and Pluto is in Aquarius. So we are here, and Aquarius requires you rebirthing yourself. And this is something that they talked about when they read my chart. It did come up. You may, as Aquarians, and this is if your sun sign, and also your rising could be Aquarius. This could apply to you. Same goes for cancer. It can be your sun sign or your rising sign. So you may experience a tightly packed, intense schedule. I literally made my assistant already send Brad a screenshot of Q1. Yeah, it's in Slack, babe. It's about belief. Are we sure we want to insert this into this quarter? Can we at all look at the next quarter for this Belize trip, and it's because it's already looking very full, and we're not in it yet. And so it's coming through, and you'll hear in my FYF, like, I'm really proud of myself, because I did plan a birthday trip that doesn't need to happen, but I want it to happen. And yes, it adds the intense schedule, but I want Brad to experience a beautiful place that I love. So anyways, it's gonna be in a tightly packed, intense schedule, however, this can lead to big bucks or better bucks than what you've experienced in the past. And so now I'm like, Okay, well, some of that schedule can stay. So Aquarians are encouraged to prioritize their health. I mean, I do, but you should, and if you haven't listened to the ads on this podcast, there's a lot of ways to prioritize your health here, and is it, particularly in the reproductive and unlimited native areas. And I just want to say I've actually been focusing a lot, ladies, if you're over 40, that means, like talking about looking at your hormone health. It doesn't mean to have a baby. I'm just really focused on keeping my hormones as long as I fucking can, and then eliminative areas. It's look at your digestive system. That's what I'm saying. They also said for Aquarians, there's a need to differentiate yourself now, showing more creativity and innovation and how you dress or present yourself. Here's what's so funny. I'm already planning this photo shoot that we're going to do with Monica Linda from Girl Squad, because we're doing a photo shoot with the new decks, and like to get some pictures for future tours. I bought the most amazing fur coat, I mean, the most amazing fur coat, and then I got the skirt that I showed you. And I have wanted to, I want to update the podcast, art and things like that. And if you haven't noticed, I've been wearing more regular clothes lately, you guys. And here's the thing, it's because I'm in a big transition. Yeah, I am showing up, and they said, remind Aquarians this is a big transition. So it does not happen overnight. So I think it's going to take all of 2025 for the new mystic comp. But in my chart reading as an Aquarius, they said, like, you're gonna have a new look. And I have been over this last year changing. I got rid of the eyelashes, right? And I've been practicing makeup, and I've been practicing these different things, and I had started doing my nails. And I'm fucking obsessed with these nails. If you're on YouTube, aren't they beautiful? They're more beautiful than when I came home. So at any rate, like, if you're an Aquarian, we are the weirdo sign. We are the alien sign. We need to stop playing like, ooh, let me hide. I'm an alien. Let's be the weirdos and be the aliens, because this is our time. It's not going to happen in your lifetime again. The last time Pluto entered Aquarius, it was the French Revolution. If I recall, that should have been 1700s that should definitely been a forewarning.

Brad Crowell 32:13

The last part, yeah.

Lesley Logan 34:50

So let's enjoy the next 20 years (inaudible). Anyways, I hope that you enjoy this. I know there's a lot of information, but please again, use the transcripts, because that can help you sometimes reading it and hearing it and seeing it can help you with your sign and let us know what takeaways you had for your sign. I want to share those. Instead of sharing the wins, I'll share what you took away from it. It's totally fabulous, and I'm really excited to hear how this helped you. They did a lot of research to help both planets. We are so lucky that we got that. If you do want your chart read by them, listen to what they said on that last podcast episode. I'm Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell 36:04

And I'm Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 36:05

Thank you so much for listening. Hey, Happy Fucking New Year.

Brad Crowell 36:08

Happy New Year.

Lesley Logan 36:09

We didn't say that the beginning.

Brad Crowell 36:11

We did not say that. Happy New Year.

Lesley Logan 36:12

Happy New Year. Happy New Year. I don't believe in resolutions. I believe in upgrades, just like your phone. I say this all the time, your phone just updates itself, and then you have the same phone with better systems. And that's what every new year is, to me. It's taking you and just making the systems better based on what you didn't like and what you did like. So share this with a friend who needs it, and until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 36:38

Bye for now.

Lesley Logan 36:40

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Brad Crowell 37:23

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Brad Crowell 37:32

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Lesley Logan 37:38

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