449. Why a Bucket Wish Helps Unlock Your Best Self
Don't miss this episode—join Lesley and Brad as they reflect on their favorite takeaways from an inspiring conversation with Ericka Nicole Malone, a powerhouse writer, producer, and lifestyle expert. Known for creating compelling plays, films, and TV shows, Ericka’s journey of reigniting old passions and embracing new challenges offers meaningful lessons on building confidence and cultivating curiosity.
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In this episode you will learn about:
- How a sense of yearning and wonder can enhance self-confidence.
- The benefits of trying new things and stepping out of your comfort zone.
- The importance of safeguarding your goals from negativity and naysayers.
- Why self-compassion is a crucial element in overcoming guilt and self-doubt.
- The value of pushing beyond fears to achieve what you truly want.
Episode References/Links:
- Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.com/
- Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist
- Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/accelerator
- OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour
- Flashcards on Amazon - https://a.co/d/5zF8Mc9
- Ericka Nicole Malone - https://erickanicolemalone.com
- The Bucket Wish Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bucketwishofficial
- The Artist's Way - https://juliacameronlive.com/
- Ep. 298 Michael Unbroken - https://beitpod.com/ep298
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Lesley Logan 0:00
It's possible that you're playing small or your fears, they're very valid because of your past experience, but if you don't give yourself the opportunity to jump into something new, to see what's on the other side, you will always have a fear-based life without enjoying what you want.
Lesley Logan 0:19
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.
Lesley Logan 1:01
Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the versatile convo I have with Ericka Nicole Malone. Yes, don't you want a name that has, that's like that?
Brad Crowell 1:11
All three things?
Lesley Logan 1:12
Ericka Nicole Malone, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you should pause this now, and you should listen to it, or listen to this one, then listen to that one. See if we have the same takeaways. If you watch our situation on the YouTube, I don't know, I don't know if we edited, I hope we edit out where I spilt water all over the desk during the interview.
Brad Crowell 1:30
I think we did. We definitely did.
Lesley Logan 1:32
And Ericka is she's got a little fear of dogs, and one of the dogs opened the door during the interview, so we no longer are doing in-person interviews.
Brad Crowell 1:41
For sure we edited that out, too.
Lesley Logan 1:43
Oh my God. Anyways, it was okay. Just a great interview. What we didn't, what we left on?
Brad Crowell 1:50
Well, it was actually cool, because she came here, so she was actually in person, which we've only done that a few times before, maybe half a dozen, in all these episodes?
Lesley Logan 2:00
In-person interview? Not at the house. Oh, we did Michael Unbroken was here at the house.
Brad Crowell 2:04
Kareen, Michael, Nikole.
Lesley Logan 2:06
Kareen was not at that we did it at her place.
Brad Crowell 2:09
Oh yeah, we did. But yeah, I know.
Lesley Logan 2:10
So in our studio.
Brad Crowell 2:12
Yeah.
Lesley Logan 2:12
We've had two.
Brad Crowell 2:13
Michael and Nikole and Ericka, so three.
Lesley Logan 2:16
Oh yeah, yeah, Nikole, Nikole. Nikole Mitchell. Well, I'm sorry, this is Ericka Nicole Malone, so I was confused.
Lesley Logan 2:24
Anyways, today is November 21st 2024 and it's Used Less Stuff Day. I'm gonna tell you about this day, because the way I think of it, it means, like, don't use too much (inaudible).
Brad Crowell 2:33
If you read it really fast, it says useless stuff.
Lesley Logan 2:36
Useless stuff.
Brad Crowell 2:37
But that's not the day it is Used Less Stuff Day.
Lesley Logan 2:41
Used Less Stuff. Used Less Stuff Day.
Brad Crowell 2:44
Used Less useless stuff. How about that?
Lesley Logan 2:46
Yeah. In the 50s, minimalist art rose to prominence, and minimalistic design and architecture grew popular. Japan shifted towards making homes that did not require expensive materials and was reduced to the basic element. Life was chaotic, and we crowded in the cities and people wanted to simplify by buying fewer things and using as little space as possible. The day was created to spread awareness about the clutter of unnecessary things in our homes, especially during one of the busiest shopping months of the year, encourages people to adopt a minimalist lifestyle, where only the essentials are bought or kept. I just want to say we no longer subscribe to minimalist life.
Brad Crowell 3:20
Who? You and me?
Lesley Logan 3:20
Yeah, we used to.
Brad Crowell 3:21
Yeah. We definitely tried.
Lesley Logan 3:23
Okay, so here's the deal.
Brad Crowell 3:24
Even in that space, we still had stuff.
Lesley Logan 3:26
Yeah, well, it's because you're a master packer. We, here's what I'm gonna say, that we're gonna commit to around the weekend of this episode coming out. We, speaking of Michael Unbroken, we are going to host some of his artwork in a closet while he's traveling the world. We don't actually have a single closet where anything more could. Yeah, look at that babe. Look at that closet. So that closet you're looking at is a little scary, but I think if we just commit.
Brad Crowell 3:51
It's just full of coats.
Lesley Logan 3:53
If we commit, no, you have so many instruments in that closet. No, there are boxes in there that have nothing inside them. We're just holding on to boxes of things that we bought years ago. You couldn't return if you wanted to.
Brad Crowell 4:08
Yeah, those probably could go now. They were bought.
Lesley Logan 4:10
I would just like to put it on the record.
Brad Crowell 4:12
A couple of years ago.
Lesley Logan 4:12
On the record that between this episode dropping and Thanksgiving, we are going to make space in this closet because we've committed to holding on to someone's artwork.
Brad Crowell 4:22
I did think where are we going to put them? And this is the only logical choice and so it does need to be reviewed. We do have, by the way, a dog conveyor belt situation. What's it called? Walking? When you walk on a thing.
Lesley Logan 4:36
The dog treadmill?
Brad Crowell 4:37
Treadmills. That's the word.
Lesley Logan 4:38
I thought we gave it away.
Brad Crowell 4:38
Nope. Still in there.
Lesley Logan 4:39
You hid it. There's also a, I can see at least one trombone and a Roomba that we used a time.
Brad Crowell 4:53
We used it like four times.
Lesley Logan 4:55
Yeah, somebody want a Roomba, but let us know. Okay, we'll give you a good price. We did, recently, just get back from Cambodia. We've been back for a bit and.
Brad Crowell 4:55
Yeah, that's true. We've been back for a month.
Lesley Logan 5:04
Yeah. And so we want you to come with us.
Brad Crowell 5:07
Yeah, actually, five weeks. But we also extended our trip and went one more country over, which you could do, too if you join us, February, we're gonna be going back. We're gonna take an amazing group. We already have an incredible group coming with us.
Lesley Logan 5:15
Oh, my God, amazing, amazing (inaudible).
Brad Crowell 5:16
Yes, we're really fired up. It's a bunch of people who've been clients of ours for a long time. It's gonna be so much fun we cannot wait. And don't worry, if you have not been a client of ours for a long time, you're gonna just fit right into the mix. Don't worry about that. Yeah. So go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestreets.com the experience in Cambodia is like a once in a lifetime or maybe twice a lifetime experience, because we've had people come back, 20 people come back (inaudible) actually, it is just mind blowing, so you have to come, you have to enjoy it. Okay, next up.
Lesley Logan 5:53
Literally, when this comes out, I'm gonna be in Los Angeles, truly getting as much guillotine into my body for the photo shoot that we're doing on Saturday for the Accessories Pilates flashcard deck. And the accessories deck is the last deck in our Pilates flashcard series. And don't worry if you don't know what a guillotine is, it's only like 11 exercises in this deck. Majority of the exercises are things you can make from household products. I am committed to figuring out how to make the push up devices with PVC pipe, babe, we have to actually make a commitment to doing that because somebody on Instagram commented because I was showing them how I do a handstand. Did I show you my new handstand on my push up devices?
Brad Crowell 6:30
Yeah, yeah, you showed me the video you did. It's pretty awesome. It's a great way to train.
Lesley Logan 6:35
Yeah. It's a really great way to train. It's a little freaking scary. At any rate, I got these handles, and I know that we can make them with PVC pipe, because I have seen it, I've done some research, so I want to figure out and make a pair out of PVC pipe, because the actual push of devices literally costs $700 now. It is insanity, because it's, this is what I was told, it's hand-spun wood.
Brad Crowell 6:59
I think so.
Lesley Logan 7:00
Yeah, so that costs a lot of money. At any rate, we're doing that photo shoot in LA. That's what this whole thing came from. And if you want to learn how to use marbles at home to better your feet or use your towels in a better way.
Brad Crowell 7:12
We'll be making marbles.
Lesley Logan 7:13
We're not going to make the marbles. I do have to buy some. That reminded me, I need to do that now. But the accessories deck you want to get on the wait list, because that's when you get the best price. And that's opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. I'm gonna do a shout out for the flash cards next week. Next week is the Black Friday Cyber Monday situations.
Brad Crowell 7:33
It is.
Lesley Logan 7:33
And we will have a tiny 10% sale on the flash cards. But that's not as good as if you're on the presale wait list for the accessories deck, because you could get 30% off when the presale happens you want to (inaudible).
Brad Crowell 7:47
Yeah. So these flash cards aren't going to come out till next year, probably around the summer. We're shooting for beginning middle of summer and making sure that we're on point this time. We had a lot of extraneous things get in the way last year, like hurricanes and things like that.
Lesley Logan 8:02
Yeah. Our goal is to do presale earlier, so that they ship before hurricane season. That's the new goal.
Brad Crowell 8:08
That's the goal. So anyway, go to opc dot moi
Lesley Logan 8:13
No, just me/flashcardwaitlist, all one word. Then Brad is a host in this amazing webinar. We've had so many people attend it.
Brad Crowell 8:22
It's been great.
Lesley Logan 8:22
It's been really a great, people really loved it. It's been really inspiring. How many do you have left for the rest of this year?
Brad Crowell 8:28
One?
Lesley Logan 8:28
Okay, so you need to go to prfit.biz/accelerator. If you are a Pilates teacher, studio owner who works for themselves and wants your work to work for you. There will probably be more in the new year. So, you know, stay tuned. But also, don't you want to start the new year off knowing you have the support for your business?. You do. prfit.biz/accelerator.
Lesley Logan 8:47
And last but not least, in a couple of weeks, literally two weeks away, we are on tour. Balanced. Body is powering this tour. They're our primary sponsor. They're amazing. We've got gift certificates to raffle off. And we were going to 22 cities, over 8000 miles, over 40 classes and workshops, and you guys, at the time we're recording this, two cities are fully sold out, with two other cities so close to being fully sold out, and the other cities are like half sold out. So you cannot sleep on this. You must, you must, you must, snag your spot now at opc.me/tour. Yeah. Before we get into Ericka Nicole's amazing interview, what is our audience question?
Brad Crowell 9:24
Sorry, Ericka Nicole Malone.
Lesley Logan 9:27
Yeah. Ericka Nicole Malone.
Brad Crowell 9:27
I do all three.
Lesley Logan 9:28
I do all three. That's right, because she's got that name. It's so good.
Brad Crowell 9:32
All right. Kira on IG asked hey, I live in Germany. How do I buy the OPC flash cards?
Lesley Logan 9:39
Yeah. So here is the deal, we have tried extremely.
Brad Crowell 9:43
Well. First, let's ask. Let's just answer the question. You can buy them from Amazon. You can buy them from our website. Now, the shipping from the United States. So, it may cost a lot. Someone just bought some who lived in Singapore, and they spent $96 on shipping. So they actually bought all the decks.
Lesley Logan 9:59
I actually thought it was cheap, not bad for shipping to Singapore. I mean, I expected it to be a lot, but I also was like, oh, that wasn't the worst. I mean, to Australia, I saw a deck. One deck was, like, a $65 shipping. I'm like, the deck is $49.
Brad Crowell 10:11
Yeah. So, so here's what we recommend. The best thing you can do is get together with a whole bunch of friends and buy a bunch of them at the same time, yeah. And that way we can put them all in the same box and ship them all the same time.
Lesley Logan 10:23
We had a whole group of people in Brussels buy about 30 different decks together, and so it the shipping actually was not that bad for that many decks, because it's a lot, and then it goes up incrementally, but not incrementally a lot, just like a little bit, I guess it's what incrementally means.
Brad Crowell 10:41
That's, yeah. Anyway, the point is there's power in numbers. And what Lesley was saying at the beginning, before I cut her off, is that, yes, hopefully someday we do have some kind of distributor over in Europe. We don't actually have one at the moment, so.
Lesley Logan 10:54
Brad is convinced that if you all call Sissel.
Brad Crowell 10:57
Yeah, S-I-S-S-E-L.
Lesley Logan 10:58
And if you are in Europe, you know what that means, Sissel.
Brad Crowell 11:00
Yeah, they're the distributor.
Lesley Logan 11:01
And you tell them, why aren't you carrying the OPC flash cards, OnlinePilatesClasses.com, flashcards, preferably with the email and pictures. And if you do it in numbers, they might actually email us back, because we have tried. Yes. This is why I'm putting you on blast. We have tried.
Brad Crowell 11:01
Yeah, for a year.
Lesley Logan 11:04
More than a year, Brad, I think you started the conversation two decks ago.
Brad Crowell 11:22
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, that was in England, though. Now we're in the German group.
Lesley Logan 11:26
Yeah, yeah. At any rate, we would love to have a distributor out there, but we don't. The other thing that could happen is some amazing studio who has a retail area that loves and enjoys buying things at a wholesale price and then reselling them, they can reach out. We do have minimums and then you get different discounts. We have someone in Australia, Pilates Nerd Down Under, she does that. And then in Canada, we have b.Pilates, Melissa Nagai. And those two help out the countries that their businesses are in, because the shipping is not when you buy, like we said, a big box, shipping is not so bad. And so, yes, they're a little bit more per deck than if you bought from us, but then you're not paying the crazy shipping.
Brad Crowell 12:11
You're not paying the crazy shipping.
Lesley Logan 12:11
Yeah, so there's that. Thanks, Kira. I hope you get them. Make sure you send a picture. Do you know we had someone buy all of the decks who lives in a Oman?
Brad Crowell 12:21
I did not. I missed that. Wow.
Lesley Logan 12:23
I know. I got a picture.
Brad Crowell 12:25
That's amazing.
Lesley Logan 12:26
That's amazing. It looks so beautiful.
Brad Crowell 12:27
So cool. Well, thanks for supporting us. Thanks for supporting a small business and Lesley's creative work here, where she's passing on all that information. Stick around. We'll be right back for our chat about Ericka Nicole Malone.
Brad Crowell 12:41
Alrighty, welcome back. Let's talk about Ericka Nicole Malone. Erica is a powerhouse in the entertainment industry. As a writer and producer, she brings to life compelling plays, films and TV shows. Beyond that, she's a lifestyle expert, offering valuable insights on fashion, beauty, health and personal development, helping others live their best lives. I think she also used to be a model. Her latest project.
Lesley Logan 13:03
She should be. I mean, she's so beautiful.
Brad Crowell 13:04
I think she was, I think that was part of her career in the past. Her latest project, The Bucket Wish, is a documentary that chronicles her inspiring journey towards living her dream life. And I think it was like, actually a bunch of challenges that she had given up on when she was younger and decided to go back and revisit, such as learning how to swim, such as, can't actually remember what the other example was.
Lesley Logan 13:30
I think she's playing a new instrument.
Brad Crowell 13:32
Oh. Flute.
Lesley Logan 13:32
Flute.
Brad Crowell 13:33
That's what it was. Yeah, yeah. So stuff like that.
Lesley Logan 13:35
I mean, it's impressive, because I tried the flute and I could never, I couldn't do the.
Brad Crowell 13:40
You can't do the what?
Lesley Logan 13:41
Don't they have to do this?
Brad Crowell 13:43
How's it? How's it go? If you're watching on YouTube, you're laughing along with me, all right.
Lesley Logan 13:52
But am I right? That's what they do. They pull their bottom lip in.
Brad Crowell 13:55
Yes, it is.
Lesley Logan 13:56
Do they bite their bottom lip?
Brad Crowell 13:58
No.
Lesley Logan 13:58
They just have to pull it in.
Brad Crowell 13:59
Yes.
Lesley Logan 14:00
That's exhausting.
Brad Crowell 14:01
It's a muscle. It's a muscle.
Lesley Logan 14:03
It's not about me. But Ericka Nicole Malone is learning it, so I think that's impressive.
Brad Crowell 14:07
All right. So about The Bucket Wish. This is different y'all from The Bucket List, which we know from the amazing movie. And of course, a bucket list, a bucket wish, is a list of personal aspirations and goals that individuals aim to achieve during their lifetime. So aspirations and goals, not necessarily things you want to have done, encouraging immediate action and fulfillment rather than postponing your dream. So bucket list, this is a cool way of thinking about, actually, the parallel here is like, be it till you see it, versus fake it till you make it. So I think that the bucket list is like, I'll put it on my bucket list and hope I get to it someday where a bucket wish is like, we're taking action and we're actually gonna do this now.
Lesley Logan 14:47
That was a great parallel, babe. I cosigned to that. One thing that I loved was that she talked about, you can build confidence in your and having a yearning and a sense of wonder. And I think that that is a wonderful way of describing how to get confident. More confident in things. Because I think a lot of us go, oh, I can never do that. And then we wonder why we don't have confidence in things. But if you have this yearning to learn and a sense of wonder, you actually can kind of hold, suspend reality for a second and see yourself doing the thing, or learning how to do a thing or potentially, like it's a be it, it's another way of being till you see it. And I love that idea of getting confident by just having a sense of wonder, because you're not holding space for I could never do that.
Brad Crowell 14:47
Yeah. So, so there's an interesting, this is interesting. How do you get a sense of yearning and wonder so that you can build your confidence?
Lesley Logan 15:27
That's a great question.
Brad Crowell 15:38
Yeah. So Lesley and I did a course a couple years back now, where we did the book called The Artist's Way.
Lesley Logan 15:46
Oh yeah, it was so fun.
Brad Crowell 15:47
And I felt like that was really strategic and approachable for how do you get curious? How do you get that sense of wonder? How do you actually build that back into your life, if you don't feel like you're curious today or have a sense of wonder today, part of the homework that we had to do was go out and try new things once a week, for like twelve weeks.
Lesley Logan 16:08
By ourselves.
Brad Crowell 16:09
By ourselves. You had to do it alone.
Lesley Logan 16:11
Yeah. Maybe you went walking outside with your shoes off.
Brad Crowell 16:14
Yeah. And it was, you know, just trying all sorts of different things, and it gave you a different perspective of the normality that we've created in the lives that we repeat over and over again. Instead of that, what if you were trying new things, right? So I think that's a great way to start creating a sense of wonder because once you put yourself back in this place of curiosity and experiencing life, when you see something else, maybe you will have a sense of wonder and yearning. And Ericka is suggesting that that will also bring confidence as you start to go experiencing (inaudible).
Lesley Logan 16:46
I have one more. I have one more takeaway, yeah, sometimes you don't know that, if you just jump into the something new, what will be on the other side? And I think always, you don't know when it's new, what'll be on the other side, but.
Brad Crowell 16:56
What will be on the other side of climbing through a cave and a hole that's about two feet wide.
Lesley Logan 17:03
I mean, I did that, but you guys, I don't understand but.
Brad Crowell 17:05
What was on the other side?
Lesley Logan 17:07
More bats, more bat poop, big spiders. And I did that while also hoping I didn't shit myself. I was sweating from the humidity, sweating from the humidity, and sweating, those of you who have ever had like, a day where you're just like, oh my God, I'm gonna have diarrhea, that chill, that sweat, that you get, that clamminess, that's what I was climbing through a hole in a cave to another. I'm like, how far is this going to go? Are we going on the other side? I'm gonna have to poop with the bats. At any rate, you don't know, but I'm gonna call on Chris Goodman here, when we first learned from him, we had that fear episode with him. He's like, wWhat if on the other side of the fear is exactly what you want? And so I just want to put that together with what Ericka Nicole Malone said, which is, like, you jump into something new, and on the other side you might get what you want.
Brad Crowell 17:59
How about that. I love it. I mean, imagine if we took conscious action towards the thing that we want, instead of self sabotage, of unconsciously not taking the action because we want this thing, but then we don't take action on it.
Lesley Logan 18:13
And also, like, I just want, like, since we're talking on the day of the election, I mean, it's possible that you've tried new things before, and like been slapped in the face. Right? We can all remember what 2016 felt like, and so it's possible that you're playing small or your fears, they're very valid because of your past experience. But if you don't give yourself the opportunity to jump into something new to see what's on the other side, you will always have a fear-based life without enjoying what you want.
Brad Crowell 18:47
Yeah, that's well said.
Lesley Logan 18:50
Thank you. Your turn.
Brad Crowell 18:51
Okay, so I really loved when she was talking about belief. She said believe in your own projects and in your vision. And she also said coupling that you have to protect yourself, okay? And this is kind of an oldie but goodie, but you're always going to have naysayers in your life. You're always going to have and maybe those people are your friends and family who are trying, thinking that they're looking out for you, but really they're just putting their own fears on your vision.
Lesley Logan 19:17
They also might be total assholes, like I.
Brad Crowell 19:19
They could totally be assholes.
Lesley Logan 19:20
They're, I definitely believe you. If you tell me your family is full of assholes, I'm going to believe you, because sometimes they are, and I'm so sorry, but you're hopefully avoiding them for a reason. So why are they taking that space in your life?
Brad Crowell 19:32
Yeah, so anyway, protect yourself. Protect your heart. She said, steer clear of people who are consistently bringing negativity. Talk to people who will get behind you instead because they believe in you, and that's going to give you encouragement and then confidence as well. She also said you won't be able to sell anything that you're making if you don't believe in it yourself. It's not that everything is about selling, but maybe your thing is and you made this awesome script or this awesome play or whatever. Like she did.
Lesley Logan 19:33
Or you want music or a book or poems or a class or a workout style, like anything that you've created and put together, yeah?
Brad Crowell 20:08
For people who are in our lives that we have to engage with who are negative, she had some quick advice. She said just keep it short. Just keep it short.
Lesley Logan 20:17
I know it's like, well, that is such a simple and genius advice.
Brad Crowell 20:22
You know, we know who those people are in our world, and we could still be cordial and kind to them and not engage.
Lesley Logan 20:28
Yeah, every day I go to a park, and there are very cordial people that have something to say every day about how I'm wearing shorts. They say it every time, and I sure they mean, well, it's for their religion that they're trying to push on people, and I just keep it short. I'm like, oh, it's a windy day, ladies, make sure you go. Stay warm. Keep it short, and I can still be nice. Yeah. I still smile
Brad Crowell 20:54
Totally.
Lesley Logan 20:54
Yeah. You've been there. You saw.
Brad Crowell 20:56
Oh yeah, yeah. They're very nice, too. Yes. All right. Well, hey, stick around, because in just a minute, we're going to talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from Ericka Nicole Malone.
Brad Crowell 21:05
Okay, finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items Say it with me, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Erica Nicole Malone? She said, hey, be kind to yourself. Just start with that.
Lesley Logan 21:21
Oh my God, that if you if you actually were honestly kind to yourself, just see what happens.
Brad Crowell 21:28
Yeah, it's, you know, I had this really interesting conversation with someone recently about guilt, and I think that the pathway out of that is being kind to yourself. Oh, yeah, because I grew up in that world and.
Lesley Logan 21:42
You grew up in a world where they made you feel guilty or shameful? Because there's a difference.
Brad Crowell 21:47
Guilt.
Lesley Logan 21:48
So they didn't say you are this.
Brad Crowell 21:49
No, it was if you do this thing, it will be bad, right?
Lesley Logan 21:53
I wonder. We have to ask Brene Brown if that falls in the shame category.
Brad Crowell 21:56
No, it's guilt. And so the problem is that you might not take the actions, but you still think things right, and then that creates guilt, right? Feel guilty for how come I thought that, man, I must be a terrible human so even if you're the most perfect goodie Two-Shoes, you still have a mind, and you're not necessarily sharing everything that goes through there, right? So.
Lesley Logan 22:17
There are so many cults that actually this is a thing. If you think the thing, you have to go confess to thinking the thing. And that is, keep going, keep going.
Brad Crowell 22:25
Yeah, well, that's the first step. I think of unfucking that mess is kindness to yourself, because we are human and our brains are impressionable. We watch movies, we see things that are terrifying, we see things that are sad, and our brains are creative, and they just make things up and they do stuff. So I'm grateful that I have the filter of being able to process what my brain is thinking before acting on it. I also think that is a little bit of a learned behavior. I remember my mom saying, think before you speak, but you know.
Lesley Logan 22:56
Oh yeah, they must have the same parenting book.
Brad Crowell 22:59
But, but I think that the first step of just being confident is being kind to yourself.
Lesley Logan 23:05
Yeah, yeah. So I really loved and it's another simple but totally difficult make clear goals for your life, clear goals for your life. So not this bucket list of someday I'll jump out of the plane. Clear goals. What do you want? Really think about it. And if you can't figure out what you want, think about how you want to feel and what you want to, maybe, what's his name? Storybrand guy. Donald Miller.
Brad Crowell 23:32
Donald Miller.
Lesley Logan 23:33
You know he's like, do your, write your eulogy. You're giggly.
Brad Crowell 23:38
You're googly? How about you googl-ize it?
Lesley Logan 23:42
Yeah. So you can think about that. What do you want people to say about what you did? And that can help you figure it out and then make clear goals based on that. And I think that that is one of the hardest and most important, and also kind of a simple Be It Action Item, when you think about it, but most people don't have their goals. They're just going through every day is the same as yesterday, just doing it.
Brad Crowell 24:11
Yeah, they're trying to make things at least three times as big.
Lesley Logan 24:14
And by the way, if that's you, then go back to be kind with yourself, because you can stop that. You can stop the hamster wheel anytime. Yeah. Anyways, I'm Lesley Logan.
Brad Crowell 24:25
And I'm Brad Crowell.
Lesley Logan 24:26
Thank you, Ericka Nicole Malone, for being on the Be It podcast. We cannot wait to see The Bucket Wish documentary. Super exciting. All the other work you're doing. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. Make sure you tag Ericka Nicole Malone. You tag the Be It Pod. You share this with a friend, and until next time, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It.
Brad Crowell 24:26
Bye for now.
Lesley Logan 24:47
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Brad Crowell 25:28
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Brad Crowell 25:37
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Lesley Logan 25:44
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