500. Setting Boundaries to Protect Your Creative Energy

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Making time for creativity and personal passions can feel impossible amid life’s demands, but it doesn’t have to be. In this episode, Lesley and Brad reflect on key insights from their conversation with Kristen McGuiness, including how she protects her creative energy while balancing work and family. Tune in for actionable tips on reclaiming your time and honoring your dreams.


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In this episode you will learn about:

  • How to establish and enforce boundaries that protect your personal goals.
  • Why honoring your intuition leads to better decision-making and less regret.
  • The value of intentional time for creativity and deep work.
  • How to overcome guilt around prioritizing your personal passions.
  • Why waiting for life to slow down before pursuing your dreams is a mistake.


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Lesley Logan 0:00  

Even if we call it a boundary, just so you know, you also don't have to explain why your boundaries exist. 


Brad Crowell 0:04  

You don't. 


Lesley Logan 0:04  

And if you need help with that, the holistic psychologist constantly reminds you that you actually do not have to explain why a boundary is a boundary that is.


Brad Crowell 0:12  

It just is. 


Lesley Logan 0:13  

It just is. 


Lesley Logan 0:14  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.


Lesley Logan 0:57  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the groundbreaking convo I had with Kristen McGuiness in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us.


Brad Crowell 1:12  

No hard feelings. We'll still be here. 


Lesley Logan 1:14  

She's a great. 


Brad Crowell 1:15  

Oh yeah. 


Lesley Logan 1:16  

I have actually shared her. 


Brad Crowell 1:18  

Okay, so hold on. Did she write the book that you read, that you told me? 


Lesley Logan 1:22  

Different book. But. 


Brad Crowell 1:23  

Oh, really? 


Lesley Logan 1:23  

Yes, I know. 


Brad Crowell 1:25  

Okay, okay, okay. 


Lesley Logan 1:26  

I know, yes, yeah, no, different book, but same topic. At any rate, it's in my TBRs still, Kristen, I'm so sorry.


Brad Crowell 1:33  

What's a TBR? 


Lesley Logan 1:34  

To be read. Yeah, this is a TBR. There's no, you know, I anyways, it's, I'm really excited because I really, so, I have actually talked about her multiple times to multiple people, because this woman, when I interviewed her, she was on her monthly like, three days in a hotel to get her shit written, like to get things done. And I just love that this woman was okay. I'm not gonna get anything done. I'm not gonna even try. I'm just going to keep the wheels on the bus, and then every month, I get several days at a hotel uninterrupted. I'm like, I want, I don't even have kids, and I want that. Anyways, before we talk about that, let's talk about how it's March 20th 2025 and it's International Day of Happiness. If you're happy and you know it, celebrate it on International Day of Happiness on March 20th. 


Brad Crowell 2:21  

I thought you were going to clap your hands. Right. 


Lesley Logan 2:24  

Anyways, when I was a kid, my mom would always sing that all the time, so. 


Brad Crowell 2:27  

That's so fun. 


Lesley Logan 2:28  

Other than being in a neutral state, happy is how we should mostly be. Okay. 


Brad Crowell 2:35  

Yeah. Don't fuck it up.


Lesley Logan 2:36  

Unfortunately, emotions, just feel like that's a lot of pressure. Unfortunately, emotions like anger and sadness are increasingly becoming a default way to be for a lot of us. So here's a day to cheer up and appreciate the good things and silver linings in life. So as you listen to Pharrell Williams’s ‘Happy’ on repeat, also take a minute this March 20th to consider what truly makes you happy, and how you can pursue it. Well, I can get down with that part of the holiday. Why don't you really take some time to journal what makes me happy, and how can I pursue that more? 


Brad Crowell 2:43  

All right. 


Lesley Logan 2:54  

That's the only part of the song you know. Because I'm happy.


Brad Crowell 3:13  

That's the best part of the song. 


Lesley Logan 3:23  

Okay. Well, anyways. 


Brad Crowell 3:24  

Good job. Nailing it. 


Lesley Logan 3:25  

We are back from Pilates On Tour. We are home for a little bit, and we are in the middle of the Accessories Flashcard presale. And I promised Brad I was not going to talk about it, but he clearly is sneaking into the show notes. So I'm just going to say, if you know, you know. 


Brad Crowell 3:41  

If you know, you know.


Lesley Logan 3:42  

And that's how it's gonna be. If you know, you know. 


Brad Crowell 3:45  

And if you don't know, and you're like, what? 


Lesley Logan 3:46  

Go listen to the other recap episode and get the link. But I'm.


Brad Crowell 3:49  

DM us. 


Lesley Logan 3:50  

But I'm I want you to take or I want you to take action steps sooner. Okay, all right. So what's coming up next that you need to know about is our Spring Training. It is April 27th through May 3rd. It's going to be virtual. There'll be live events and there is replays. So don't worry about it if you are like, oh my God, it's the busiest week of my life, I promise you, you'll be able to attend the things on replay. You want to go to opc.me/events. Pretty soon, I'll tell you what the theme is going to be about this Spring Training. But all the OPC teachers and myself are teaching multiple classes over the week on different pieces of apparatus for different levels of bodies, so that every Pilates lover of any level can have access to moving with accountability, Q&A to get feedback on their form and potentially seeing what OPC is all about. 


Brad Crowell 4:37  

What is it about? 


Lesley Logan 4:39  

Opc.me/events plural to get on the waitlist, which means you get the discount. What's next, Brad? 


Brad Crowell 4:44  

All right. All right. Pilates business owners. Calling all Pilates business owners, go to prfit.biz/accelerator for a free webinar where we're going to dig into the biggest three secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching 2500 businesses just like yours, whether you are teaching someone at home, whether you're renting space with someone, or whether you've got a big team in a brick and mortar studio, these three secrets all apply to you, and it's all about how do we make more money? How do we make our businesses actually profitable? And that's what we do at Profitable Pilates. So come join me. It is free, prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And then finally, what is the last note? 


Lesley Logan 5:28  

Well, you guys have to come to Cambodia with us on a Pilates retreat. 


Brad Crowell 5:30  

Obviously. 


Lesley Logan 5:31  

And some breath work and some visualization and some tips and tools and workshops on how to actually make your life the way you want to live it. Plus you get to see incredible temples that are a thousand years old or older. 


Brad Crowell 5:43  

Mind blowing. 


Lesley Logan 5:43  

You get to go on a beautiful water cruise, and it is incredible because you actually get to see how a city can thrive on the water, and the community they work in.


Brad Crowell 5:52  

They literally live on boats. 


Lesley Logan 5:53  

Yeah and the community they work in. And this is not some sort of like weird tourism thing. We actually get permission by a community to go into the water. You can see how the city is built. And you actually get to attend one of these amazing shops, where you get to see how women can work remotely, making beautiful pieces of things you can buy, and you can support the village in an incredible way. It's so fun. It's so relaxing. It's really nice, because after all the breath work you'll have done that day, you just go out and just be in peace and not taking in, like, overwhelming information. And then also, we go to a lotus farm, and you can just see how this one guy's company uses every single piece of a lotus flower to not only create beautiful things you want to buy, but also energy in remote places. It's quite amazing. 


Brad Crowell 6:40  

It is astounding. 


Lesley Logan 6:40  

It's astound, I mean, it's like, this, it's this guy's like, how can I, like, change the world? And he is doing it and we get to go show you that. So it's in October. You want to go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. If you're like, I'm gonna do the next one. We haven't planned it yet. 


Brad Crowell 6:53  

We haven't planned it yet. 


Lesley Logan 6:55  

And that is because this is your next time. This is the time.


Brad Crowell 6:57  

This is your next time.


Lesley Logan 6:58  

So come.


Brad Crowell 6:59  

Yeah. So join us at the end of this year, in October, looking forward to it. 


Lesley Logan 7:03  

It's a great time. It's before all the chaos of the end of the year. So it's a really good time, because. 


Brad Crowell 7:07  

It really is. 


Lesley Logan 7:08  

You can reset before the chaos of the holidays, and then you'll have all these tools and things that we'll have done in the workshops and the Pilates to help set you up for 2026.


Brad Crowell 7:17  

Some breath work, some mindset. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, we have an audience question before we dig into this awesome conversation with Kristen McGuiness.


Lesley Logan 7:28  

That was August. That earthquake, you guys, if you're watching on YouTube, was her, it's earthquake August. 


Brad Crowell 7:33  

Earthquake August. Okay, love_Danielle on IG asks, when will your flashcards be available again on Amazon and is there a discount code available?


Lesley Logan 7:44  

So the time this comes out, we should be back stocked on Amazon. We were selling out all of our OG Matt decks, and we had to completely sell out of that deck on Amazon before the new mat deck could come up. So that's now available on Amazon. Our Reformer Deck is our bestselling deck.


Brad Crowell 8:02  

It's hard to keep in stock, not a lot. 


Lesley Logan 8:04  

It's hard to keep in stock. 


Brad Crowell 8:05  

Thank you for supporting us. 


Lesley Logan 8:06  

So thank you. We love that you love it. And at the time that you were asking this question, we did have some in stock on our website, but not on Amazon. So what we'll say is we should be stocked on Amazon. We do not have discount codes available for any of our decks, and it's mostly because actually, we're really a small business, guys, and these decks are really a lot of work to put together, and they actually cost a lot of money to print out. And so while we would love to just give the discounts around everywhere, we do have to make sure that they continue to pay for themselves. We continue hitting print on them. And so you can buy them on Amazon. You could also buy them from us, and if you buy them from us, we obviously can make more money to support more Pilates adventures that are out there. We do.


Brad Crowell 8:47  

We love Amazon, but they take a whole lot. We have a love-hate relationship with Amazon. 


Lesley Logan 8:51  

At the moment, if you are the people trying to do your best to boycott places like Amazon and Target and things like that, we fully support you. And what you can do in your targeting of boycotts is be very intentional about who you're shopping from. So if you are going to shop on Amazon, shopping from people like us is a great thing. Small businesses, because it really does affect us in a positive way, Amazon allows people to find our products who don't know us, and so that's why we are there. It's not because we're like pro everything that they do, we actually need to be found. 


Brad Crowell 9:22  

We intentionally sell on our website.


Lesley Logan 9:24  

Yeah. So if you buy from our website, it's better for all of us. And then the people that you're not enjoying and want, not wanting them to make money, don't. So you can buy from us, and then we get it all. 


Brad Crowell 9:33  

Yeah. So go to opc.me/flashcards. 


Lesley Logan 9:36  

So in case you're wondering why we're on there, if you don't own a business with products, you need to understand that the way the world works, we, unfortunately, as product based businesses, have to be where people already are. And so that exposes them to OPC, and then hopefully they come over to our side, and then they find all of our amazing stuff. But I don't judge any of the people who shop on there, because we do, too. It's convenient. So anyways, all this to say, yes, they're there. They should be back in stock, and you can also buy from us. 


Brad Crowell 10:07  

Awesome. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to talk with Kristen McGuiness, who is an author. And she talks about how does she escape the chaos of being an entrepreneur and being a mom to be able to write books. So, pretty cool stuff. Great conversation. She sounds amazing. Stick around. We'll be right back.


Brad Crowell 10:27  

Okay, now, let's talk about Kristen McGuiness. Kristen is a bestselling author, book publisher and a book coach with a deep passion for storytelling and empowering others to find their own voice. With years of experience, Kristen has helped countless others bring their ideas to life. Her own writing journey includes her novel, Live Through This, a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of resilience and activism. Beyond her professional accomplishments, Kristen is a mother, an entrepreneur who believes in creating space for creativity and living a life aligned with purpose. 


Lesley Logan 11:00  

I mean, thank you Roxy Menzies, who introduced us. Because I just. 


Brad Crowell 11:04  

I was wondering how the dots got connected there. 


Lesley Logan 11:06  

Yeah, yeah. I really enjoyed this intro. I feel like, if we lived in Ohio, Santa Barbara, we would all be friends. We'd be, you know, doing life in the daytime, and then I would figure out when she's gonna be at that hotel, and I would get another room, and then we could have drinks at the end of the day, going, what did you fucking create? Like, this is what I dreamed of, Kristen. Anyways, I just think she'd be cool, but I also appreciated her vulnerability and honesty. I feel sometimes a lot of moms have to, like, show us all the hats that they can wear in a day. And Kristen was pretty honest about how, no. So she said, I think my creative fuel tank is the same place where I draw my maternal energy from. They are both creative forces. When I'm in my mom mode, I'm running off of that creative fuel in the same way I would be if I was writing or editing. But she highlighted the importance of taking time for herself, and she said, at the end of the day, I've got nothing left. I mean, I could do an Excel spreadsheet, but I'm not going to come with a masterpiece. And I actually, really love that. She is actually not putting pressure on herself to write something amazing. On the same day, she just ran a household, and I found that to be cool. 


Brad Crowell 11:06  

It's amazing permission. 


Lesley Logan 11:06  

Yeah, amazing permission. I do. I think that, well, it takes a lot because you're like, oh, but you got this thing that you want to write, this thing you want to do, and a creative is like, I've got to birth this thing. And I really think it's cool that she gives herself permission to be where she's at and do what she's doing, wherever that is. So if she's at the hotel writing her work or her masterpiece, she's not mom and the children. She and her partner have set things up so that she can do that. And I have a lot of girlfriends who have children, and I find even more together, they're not as present as I love them to be, because that boundary isn't there yet. And I think that what's so cool is Kristen gives herself permission to, I have a boundary for my work when I'm with my kids, and I have a boundary for my family when I'm doing this work. And I just think we all could take, even if you don't have kids, you could take permission for that. Go to, I want to go to a hotel this month just by myself.


Brad Crowell 13:03  

Me too. 


Lesley Logan 13:04  

Well, maybe not march. This is a, this is a heck of a month, but April, I'm doing it in April.


Brad Crowell 13:09  

Okay, okay. I have a couple things. She said one thing that I thought was really interesting, she commented on being a grown ass woman still having to tell her parents that she's going to a conference when she just rented a fucking hotel room for herself because of the generational assumption of work hard, play hard. Okay, this was like a super side note. Nothing to do with writing, but I thought it was such an interesting observation. It made me think about it as I was listening to the interview. You know, she said her parents' generation is actually sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice until you get retired and then y'all can go, you know, take a long walk. The rest of my life is for me. I'm never doing anything for anybody ever again, as opposed to the way that she's doing her life, which I think is very generational, because I'm more associated with her. My parents very much are in the way that her parents are. But she's like how can I enjoy some of my life now and not have to wait till I'm 65 and retired to in quote-unquote, enjoy my life, and also this idea of just like 1,000% self sacrifice until that time, maybe there's a happy medium in there that I think we can have. So anyway, that is not what we had written down here for me to chat about today, but I just thought it was so powerful that I wanted to reiterate that. 


Lesley Logan 14:29  

Also, just in case anyone feels guilty about a fib like that, that is, don't, sometimes people in our lives are just not going to understand why we do what we do. We don't need their permission. We don't actually need them to understand. So just tell them what they need to hear so you can go do the thing you want to do. 


Brad Crowell 14:47  

Well, actually, instead of encouraging people to lie, that's not what we're encouraging here, what I think is a better through line is it's another boundary. She created a boundary between, you know, she heard her mom for this specific experience, so that she doesn't have to go through this emotional roller coaster and then justify all the thing and the expense and the la, la, la, you know, and then be judged. And you know, all that.


Lesley Logan 14:48  

When you also speak, even if we call it boundary, just so you know, you also don't have to explain why your boundaries exist. 


Brad Crowell 15:20  

You don't. 


Lesley Logan 15:20  

And if you need help with that, the holistic psychologist constantly reminds you that you actually do not have to explain why a boundary is a boundary that. 


Brad Crowell 15:28  

It just is. 


Lesley Logan 15:28  

It just is. 


Brad Crowell 15:29  

Yep, that being said, she was talking about control, right? And she said hey, we clearly can't control things around us. The only thing that we can control are the choices that we make when the things around us are happening. What she was talking about was she's an entrepreneur. Her husband is an entrepreneur. They run different businesses. They also have children. And she's a writer. She said she was reflecting on finding agency in the midst of chaos. And, you know, obviously the most glaring example would be COVID. Like you already mentioned, you could set everything up, but then kablam COVID comes around. She said you need to flip the way you're looking at it, instead of like this shit is happening to me. She said you get to create your own pathway through whatever it is that you're navigating, and that's an opportunity that you have more control over, instead of it's happening to me. So she acknowledged life's unpredictability and emphasized it's just this thing of at a certain point you didn't hit that first domino, and you just have to sometimes be okay, we're in the pressure cooker right now, but relief is always on the way, right? And she shared she had a mantra. I actually thought it was great, because she clearly knows our audience. She said, I'm gonna write my way through this chaos. I'm gonna write my way through it because she's a writer. She said, maybe for you guys, you're gonna have to Pilates your way through the chaos. You know what I mean, wherever is your safe zone.


Lesley Logan 16:51  

I agree, whether you write or do Pilates, there has to be something that you're doing for yourself to process what you're going through. When I found out that Jay had passed away, it was on a Tuesday, and I still showed up for my session on Wednesday. And it's because moving through the grief made it actually easier to grieve. Or when there's a lot going on, you might just want to, like, keep watching the news and just watch them repeat that shit over and over again to keep you there until the next ad break. Or you can go move your body and get CliffsNotes later, because we have to, or you can go write, or you can go journal, or whatever it is, we have to have some way of processing what we're going through so that we can go back to the beginning, whatever the next step is, and keep going. I find that in today's chaos, a lot of people are waiting for things to be better before they take the first next step, and sometimes you just have to take it. So, you can use whatever that creative energy is to use that to go through whatever is going on.


Brad Crowell 16:51  

Yeah, well, listen, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig into some really juicy be it action items that we had. 


Lesley Logan 17:07  

It's such a good, such a robust episode.


Brad Crowell 17:58  

With Kristen McGuiness. We'll be right back. 


Brad Crowell 18:01  

Welcome back. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Kristen McGuiness? She said if I care about my creative careers, whatever that thing is that I love to do or that you love to do, you've got to create a boundary around it and hold that sacred, okay? So this is, again, the through line here of today's episode is boundaries. She shared that if you truly care about something, whether it is a creative project, a personal passion, personal passion, or even self-care, you must be intentional about carving out time to do it. Right? There's no question about it. Setting clear boundaries allows you to dedicate energy towards what it is that actually fulfills you, even when life gets demanding. And I think that's the hardest part. She said it's about creating those pockets of freedom, the pockets of concentration and the pockets of creativity. So we've got the POFs.


Lesley Logan 18:58  

The POFs, POC and POC again. 


Brad Crowell 19:01  

Yeah, POF. We'll call them POFs, Pockets Of Freedom. And I think that's another argument for taking time to the hotel like she did. 


Lesley Logan 19:09  

Those all fall under gemstone time. 


Brad Crowell 19:12  

That's right. 


Lesley Logan 19:13  

So, if you come on my retreat, or you've ever heard me talk about how to create an ideal schedule, your gemstone time is time you have to protect. 


Brad Crowell 19:21  

Gotta protect it. 


Lesley Logan 19:21  

And it is the time where you do things that you need to concentrate and be creative on. So, you know, the things that can propel your life and your dreams forward.


Brad Crowell 19:30  

Yeah, actually moving things forward. So, what about you? 


Lesley Logan 19:33  

Never lose sight of your dreams no matter what. She said this and I think one of the authors that Oprah quoteed was Gertrude Lyons who said, "The only times I've ever made mistakes in life is when I've chosen to ignore that voice." So that voice being your intuition, the thing that you want to do. And I think that's so true. I think we can all look back and look at things we regret, and it's like, oh, I didn't turn left when I knew I should have, I turned right or I should have done this. And she said, as long as you're listening to the small, quiet voice inside you, you will lways end up where you need to go. And this is actually just one of the truest things. I mean, just like us sitting here in this house, this was like a small voice going kitchen both now, think you should go now, think, you know what I mean, and not letting all the things. 


Brad Crowell 20:13  

I think you should go now. I think you should go now. 


Lesley Logan 20:19  

What if we made a meditation, which is like, I think you should go now. 


Brad Crowell 20:22  

Today is the day that you should go.


Lesley Logan 20:29  

Create a boundary. 


Brad Crowell 20:31  

Going is what today is for. 


Lesley Logan 20:34  

Boundaries are kind.


Lesley Logan 20:36  

Anyways, I hope that you take some time to listen to Kristen's episode a couple of times. And really, ladies, especially my ladies, I know there's a few good men who listen, but ladies, I hope you realize this person, she's not perfect. She's not claiming to be perfect. She is really, truly honoring what is possible and when it's possible, and making sure that she doesn't ever stop focusing on what her dreams are, even if it means they're in pockets of freedom and pockets of concentration. So. 


Brad Crowell 21:01  

Tell us about your POFs. 


Lesley Logan 21:02  

We want to know. 


Brad Crowell 21:03  

Yeah. 


Lesley Logan 21:04  

Yeah. I'm Lesley Logan. 


Brad Crowell 21:05  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 


Lesley Logan 21:06  

Thank you so much for listening to this episode, and every episode you listen. This is episode 500. 


Brad Crowell 21:10  

Five hundo.


Lesley Logan 21:11  

Cue the balloons. Nope. You don't have it on your thing. I would. I just, if you're, okay, well, if you, I think you did, it's okay. It's beyond. It's past now. If you're listening, they don't even know, but we're trying to do balloons. There we go, confetti, on the, on the YouTube. You can see it on the YouTube. We love you. You're amazing. And we couldn't have gotten to 500 episodes without you listening and you writing in and you sending your questions in, and you sending your you got to make it more of a heart, babe if you're going to do it, and and then you've got to send in your win so we can shout them out on the FYFs because we want to constantly support you. That's what this podcast is about. So thank you for your love, for your sharing, all of that and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 


Brad Crowell 21:58  

Bye for now. 


Lesley Logan 22:00  

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Brad Crowell 22:43  

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Lesley Logan 22:48  

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Brad Crowell 22:52  

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Lesley Logan 22:59  

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Brad Crowell 23:02  

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